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re: Collins being an UDFA - It could end up a bidding war
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:25 am to CharlesLSU
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:25 am to CharlesLSU
A no tax state has a bigger financial advantage than the amount of signing bonus offers La'el. So a team maybe like miami that can offer no state tax as well as a large chunk of the udfa bonus pool is the most financially advantage type situation.
Bigger picture, the position la'el can play and franchise he can have the most success with in 2 yrs should trump all for his next pay day.
Bigger picture, the position la'el can play and franchise he can have the most success with in 2 yrs should trump all for his next pay day.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:25 am to TheChosenOne
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Every undrafted rookie is locked into signing a three year contract. The three year contract will contain the minimum Paragraph 5 salary in each year, which will equal payouts of $435,000 in 2015, $525,000 in 2016, and $615,000 in 2017.
This ^
His signing bonus can't exceed $88K also. That's the alotted amount each team has available for UFA.
The only thing he has up on the other players is that his contract is only three years, compared to four years like other drafted players. First rounders have a fifth year team option, and if La'el succeeds like many of us expect then a team would be able to tender him after three years when he's a RFA.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:25 am to HoustonTiger2008
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How would a team drafting him in the 7th round prevent someone from getting him at a large discount?
Because that team would have his rights, therefore another team wouldn't have the option of signing him.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:26 am to HoustonTiger2008
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How would a team drafting him in the 7th round prevent someone from getting him at a large discount?
Had Arizona used a 7th on him, would prevent Seattle for getting him for nothing. Its not complicated a minor point he was making.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:26 am to HoustonTiger2008
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How would a team drafting him in the 7th round prevent someone from getting him at a large disc
Because the team that drafted him would have the rights to him. He could choose to sit out the year, but no one else would be able to sign him
Therefore a division rival wouldn't be allowed to sign him by league rules
Seriously?
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 11:28 am
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:28 am to TigerBait1127
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Because the team that drafted him would have the rights to him
Collins would not have signed had he been drafted. If he was drafted he could have opted not to sign and then re-entered in the 2016 draft. So no, him being drafted would not have been a good decision for a team.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:28 am to HoustonTiger2008
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How would a team drafting him in the 7th round prevent someone from getting him at a large discount?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:29 am to HoustonTiger2008
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Apparently you have no clue what the hell you're talking about either
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How would a team drafting him in the 7th round prevent someone from getting him at a large discount?
lulz.
get back to building that crib and let the men folk talk football. Fggt
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:29 am to McCaigBro69
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Collins would not have signed had he been drafted. If he was drafted he could have opted not to sign and then re-entered in the 2016 draft. So no, him being drafted would not have been a good decision for a team.
No shite? That was what the prevent part was for. read what I responded to
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:30 am to TigerBait1127
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Because the team that drafted him would have the rights to him
No kidding.
I don't see how that prevents another team from getting him "at a major discount".
All rookies from the 4-7 rounds and UDFA are going to get the same salary. The only variance is going to be in the signing bonus. So by drafting him in the 7th round I'm not quite sure you are preventing a competitor from getting him "at a major discount".
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:30 am to McCaigBro69
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If he was drafted he could have opted not to sign and then re-entered in the 2016 draft. So no, him being drafted would not have been a good decision for a team.
as opposed to drafting a guy that will likely be cut ? Upside is you convince a first round pick to sign on for cheap, downside he doesn't and you're out a pick that is worthless 90% of the time. Reward>>>>risk
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 11:34 am
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:31 am to HoustonTiger2008
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don't see how that prevents another team from getting him "at a major discount".
They literally could not sign him
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:31 am to HoustonTiger2008
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So by drafting him in the 7th round I'm not quite sure you are preventing a competitor from getting him "at a major discount".
are you fricking stupid? serious question.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:31 am to HoustonTiger2008
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No kidding. I don't see how that prevents another team from getting him "at a major discount". All rookies from the 4-7 rounds and UDFA are going to get the same salary. The only variance is going to be in the signing bonus. So by drafting him in the 7th round I'm not quite sure you are preventing a competitor from getting him "at a major discount".
because he can entertain multiple teams right now......had he been drafted, he'd be obligated to THAT team that drafted him in the 7th
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:32 am to HoustonTiger2008
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So by drafting him in the 7th round I'm not quite sure you are preventing a competitor from getting him "at a major discount".
It can't be any simpler to understand
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:32 am to HoustonTiger2008
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The only variance is going to be in the signing bonus. So by drafting him in the 7th round I'm not quite sure you are preventing a competitor from getting him "at a major discount".
if I have his rights, my competitor does not. If he has to re-enter the draft next year, then my competitor will have to use a higher pick to get him. No discount.
Are you dense?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:33 am to BilJ
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as opposed to drafting a guy that will likely be cut ? Upside is you convince a first round pick to sign on for cheap, downside he doesn't you're out a pick that is worthless 90% of the time. Reward>>>>risk
Notable 7th round picks: Marques Colston, Matt Hasslebeck, Donald Driver, Rayfield Wright, Shannon Sharpe.
Draft picks are extremely valuable in today's NFL. They see every pick as important. None are wasted.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:34 am to TigerBait1127
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They literally could not sign him
So yeah, that prevents a competitor from signing him. Not from signing him "at a major discount". A team drafting him in the 7th round would be paying him the same amount of money as a team signing him as an UDFA. the "discount" factor to his comment was irrelevant. If you were to draft him you would have exclusive rights to the player, but you aren't preventing someone else from signing him cheaper.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:35 am to HoustonTiger2008
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So yeah, that prevents a competitor from signing him. Not from signing him "at a major discount". A team drafting him in the 7th round would be paying him the same amount of money as a team signing him as an UDFA. the "discount" factor to his comment was irrelevant. If you were to draft him you would have exclusive rights to the player, but you aren't preventing someone else from signing him cheaper.
oh man....you are just fricking stupid
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