re: Coach Miles names Brandon Harris starter..

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Something tells me that Kirk and Lee have heard something and know our QB play will be much improve . Guys like that don't just throw around championship predictions

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agree

back door from the field info to Kirk - no doubt

BH is amazing and Les is playing it down

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Coach didn't name Harris the starter. He said he's getting the first snaps and said he's open to playing Jennings too. He seems to be very deliberate in avoiding saying that Harris is his starting quarterback.


He's a freaking loony. It's a proven fact he doesn't know how to handle the QB position. He'll end up f'ing up Harris' head with that tentative bullshite. Give the kid the confidence he needs to light up the SEC. Don't have him scared to make a mistake and feeling he's one bad play away from the bench. That you don't really have full confidence in him and that he is not the starting QB for LSU but QB 1A.

A QB needs to be confident and have swagger in his game. A coach's job is to make his QB comfortable and confident. That the coach is all in with him. This crap does the opposite.

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So please tell us exactly what miles has said to bh behind closed doors that hurts his confidence. If you honestly believe he talks to his players the way he talks to the media you are not very smart.

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I will be excited when he goes 11-16 and 3 td's

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Let's assume 65 offensive snaps. I think we have to throw the ball 20 to 22 times (maybe up to 25 times) to remain balanced. Just my $0.02 - while your numbers look closer to what we did last year - recall that 2013 was not that long ago.

Zach threw right at 25 times per game as a senior - an "average" game was about 16-24, with ~2 TDs and ~ 3/4 of an INT.

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Please explain how great Les Miles has been in developing QBs at LSU. And does the lack of development of QBs mean something has not been handled properly. We do have a 10+ year sample size.

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Jamarcus Russell
6-2-0 2004 - 127.2 QBR 73/144 50.7% 1053 yards 7.3 ypa 9 TD
7-1-0 2005 - 136.6 QBR 188/311 60.5% 2443 yards 7.5 ypa 15 TD
6-2-0 2006 - 167.0 QBR 232/342 67.8% 3129 yards 9.1 ypa 28 TD

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Improved in every measurable metric over the course of his career.

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Matt Flynn
6-2-0 2007 - 125.8 QBR 202/359 56.3% 2407 yards 6.7 ypa 21 TD

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One and done... led the team to a SEC and National Championship

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Jarrett Lee
3-5-0 2008 - 116.9 QBR 143/269 53.2% 1873 yards 7.0 ypa 14 TD
6-2-0 2010 - 119.9 QBR 54/89 60.7% 573 yards 6.4 ypa 2 TD
8-0-0 2011 - 152.0 QBR 104/167 62.3% 1306 yards 7.8 ypa 14 TD

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Played moderately better in 2010 in very limited action before exploding in 2011.

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Jordan Jefferson
5-3-0 2009 - 137.2 QBR 182/296 61.5% 2166 yards 7.3 ypa 17 TD
6-2-0 2010 - 114.7 QBR 118/209 56.5% 1411 yards 6.8 ypa 7 TD
8-0-0 2011 - 138.7 QBR 61/100 61.0% 737 yards 7.4 ypa 6 TD

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Regressed in 2010 when Gary Crowton attempted to make him an option QB, then rebounded in 2011.

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Zach Mettenberger
6-2-0 2012 - 128.3 QBR 207/352 58.8% 2609 yards 7.4 ypa 12 TD
5-3-0 2013 - 171.4 QBR 192/296 64.9% 3082 yards 10.4 ypa 22 TD

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Improved in every measurable metric over the course of his career.

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Anthony Jennings
4-3-0 2014 - 118.3 QBR 111/227 48.9% 1611 yards 7.1 ypa 11 TD

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TBD

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Brandon Harris
0-1-0 2014 - 175.0 QBR 25/45 55.6% 452 yards 10.0 ypa 6 TD

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TBD

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While there might be legit reasons to knock the LSU QB play since 05, not getting better or developing in their LSU careers is not one. imo

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The problem (and knock) - if there is one - is that of a cohesive offensive philosophy/strategy. It does not help that Les has had, technically, 5 OCs going into his 11th season. This sometimes schizophrenic offensive personality has seen some strange things - most notably the 1950s era (but shockingly effective) offense from 2011, as well as the borderline "pass happy" 2013 offense (and 25 passes a game is not, per se Don Coryell in nature - but the fact so many of those attempts were downfield to OBJ and Juice does make it a borderline case) - it is difficult to recruit and develop players who will run a consistent, effective offense in such an environment.

But, QB "development" (although Jordan Jefferson is a complete mystery and - too early to tell, but Anthony Jennings appears similar) - is a red herring, IMHO.

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This is all about managing Jennings' delicate psyche. Harris is the guy, but he has to give AJ some hope so he will keep his head in the game

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What are you talking about? Les didn't even name a starter last year, and has been even less cryptic this year. When things went wrong with Jennings, they made the switch in a fairly abrupt fashion.

Harris is the starter, but Miles is not the kind of guy that will go into detail as to why. It's as simple as that.

And of course, Jennings will get snaps, and he should. We have 2 unproven QB's that can both benefit from playing time. But the guy that will get the majority is the one that you think gives you the bet chance going forward.

Some people just can't seem to get it through their heads that our QB situation sucked last year, and we worked with what we had.

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all truths.

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I think it's fair to add that they were cautious with Harris last year, and didn't want him in a position that might be detrimental to him mentally.

I personally think that the primary reason Harris didn't play the majority last year was inconsistency, and in a sense, the staff was trying to protect him from creating bad habits, or even to be damaged mentally.

Jennings has sort of taken the brunt of this, and I feel for him in that regard. Both the guys are probably much better this year, but all of the bad memories are placed solely on Jennings.

If the above is at all accurate, and Harris is well-prepared to lead us to a championship this year, then I think the staff (along with Jennings and the rest of the QB group) deserves credit, that they will likely never get, for handling the QB situation better than what could have actually been predicted at the time. They were thinking long-term, and I for one hope they never have to look back.

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So you guys are claiming the QB position's development and use at LSU under Miles and has not held the program back. That QB play has been on the level of the other areas of the team? That it has not been the one glaring deficiency at LSU for most of the last 10 years for QBs recruited and developed under Miles? And it is just coincidental that it has been that way under multiple OCs during Miles' tenure? Well OK then.

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I'm not really involved in this discussion, but in what years would you have said that it would have made that big of a difference? I would say the year we underachieved the most in that time frame, we had the best QB at LSU in my lifetime.