re: CEO has won the team now on to the Fans

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Awful? No. But it would mean 2 SEC losses and an embarrassing loss at home to Troy (and let's not get ahead of ourselves counting these victories just yet). That's hardly an excellent result considering the volatility we put the program through to hire him.

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Will you EVER let it go? So, in your opinion, no matter what he does, O is a failure. Fire Saban!

People hold on to Miles' losses.

Why let it go?
Two of the most shameful , humiliating , embarrassing , inexcusable ( although my God the excuses/lies ) losses in recent history.

Let it go?
No

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He will never win over the No-O's just like Les could nevre win over the Sabanistas!

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this is wrong. O can win over the fans by winning a lot of games, simple as that.

But the two historic losses early this season was the worst possible way to start his tenure here.

Surely you can understand that.

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Will you EVER let it go?

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Let it go? Look, it was a horrible hire on paper. It will take a lot of work to tip the scales in the other direction.

In the interim, I will continue to cheer for the team, give credit to O when I think he deserves it, and criticize him when I think he deserves it too.

this is wrong. O can win over the fans by winning a lot of games, simple as that.

But the two historic losses early this season was the worst possible way to start his tenure here.

Surely you can understand that.

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I do and that is the core to my post - awful ! But winning at the Swamp and beating a Top 10 team in the next 2 games is a good start to turning it around.

Also I completely understand not wanting Joe to hire
CEO but any hire of any coach is never a sure thing.

The entire SEC thinks LSU made a awful hire and that will not change until CEO wins. Winning out this season would take us to Atlanta and the heads of football experts would blow up !

I am telling you that I think LSU will beat Ole Miss badly - 41 - 13. I am not going to tell you that I think LSU will beat Bama but I will tell you after winning 3 SEC games in a row with a bye week LSU will be as ready to play Bama.

Geaux Tigers

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We beat Ole Miss / Arky / Tenn/ aTm / win our Bowl game are you really going to call this a awful season?

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I'd call it a 9-3 season with a 7th loss in a row to BAMA, a blowout loss to AU and a loss to a fricking Sunbelt Team.

Is that the kind of success fans were expecting when they insisted on firing the last guy who's average win total was about 9-3? Remember how almost NO ONE was happy and that kind of record needed to get the frick out of Baton Rouge?

The incessant goal post moving has made some forget what the issues were with the previous coach and why they wanted him canned. Now we seem content on getting essentially the same or lesser results and are calling it a great job. Hells bells...if people were going to be happy with 9-3 and a Bowl Win, we had that for a decade and got rid of it.

FTR, I'm not advocating a position as to whether 9-3 is good enough at LSU...just pointing out that for many years now, it CLEARLY has not been for the majority of Tiger fans. Now suddenly with some smoke and mirrors many have been conned into thinking that not only is it ok, but it's actually some amazing feet to have pulled off.

dude - 9-3 was the standard set before the season started - what did you expect ?

12-0 and a Natty ?

you hated the hire

you said I told you so after the MSU

your head blew up after we lost to Troy so now the season is over and the kids are playing tough football and you are not excited about it

you are a sad fan that I am sure is pulling for Ole Miss to beat LSU to make CEO look worst !

you might not be one of those guys but if you don't think for the over-all good of the program some of you clowns are pulling for Ole Miss to beat CEO to help push him out the door you would be wrong

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If he wants to win me over all he needs to do it to continue winning games

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Yep.

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dude - 9-3 was the standard set before the season started - what did you expect ?

12-0 and a Natty ?

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No...we weren't winning the title with Miles or O. Remember back when we were being told it wasn't JUST the record but HOW we got there? When winning wasn't enough, but winning the RIGHT way was just as important? Miles was fired for 9-3 type seasons and now we're praising the new coach. Why the change? Was it always the case that Miles' teams perpetually underachieved but only THIS SEASON a 9-3 record is great? Why can we not expect some rational comparisons to be made here?

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you hated the hire

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Sure did.

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you said I told you so after the MSU

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No...I said so after BYU and Syracuse as well. The hire was abysmal regardless of those games.

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your head blew up after we lost to Troy so now the season is over and the kids are playing tough football and you are not excited about it

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Except that I praised the team on Monday or Tuesday on this VERY FORUM for playing hard and overcoming adversity on the game against AU.

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you are a sad fan that I am sure is pulling for Ole Miss to beat LSU to make CEO look worst !

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A dick...go eat one.

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you might not be one of those guys but if you don't think for the over-all good of the program some of you clowns are pulling for Ole Miss to beat CEO to help push him out the door you would be wrong

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Thanks? Sure there are, just as there were assholes pulling for LSU to lose when they hated Miles...agree? I'm not one of those. I believe, for reasons I've been VERY CLEAR about for months now (if anyone would bother to read them and not fricking strawman my arguments) that I think this will end in failure for the program. I did not predict the wheels flying off this season, but a slow and steady decline over several years as the obviousness of how "The Orgeron system" was unsustainable came to pass. The fact that they DID seem to be flying off took me by surprise...but I wasn't happy about it.

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So why subject the program to the volatility for no gain?

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Were you not in favor of parting ways with Miles? It's possible the Orgeron hire was bad, but that doesn't mean the decision to let Miles go was also bad.

I haven't read anyone say that 5 straight years of going 9-3 will be acceptable. Orgeron shouldn't be given that much time, but that's what it would take to truly prove that there was "no gain" with his hire.

We don't really know why the team looked so bad against Troy and MSU. Worst case is Orgeron is an awful coach and we can expect more losses like that during his tenure. Best case is this was simply more of a transition than many of us expected (or were led to believe) and that those two losses were growing pains. Either way, they happened and we have to move forward and factor them into our final judgment of Orgeron, but I don't think they should be used to define his tenure (yet).