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Ceauxch Ensminger was a failure as OC at previous stops

Posted on 10/29/16 at 8:25 am
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24555 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 8:25 am
I was in a thread yesterday and someone made this post about Steve Ensminger:
quote:

A failed OC at two different schools
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=66491458&s=2&p=66481126#66491458

I didn't try to dispute the claim. He's probably right so I just took his word for it.

This morning when I woke up before 5:00 a.m. and couldn't freakin go back to sleep, I started wondering why I was wide awake so early on a Saturday when LSU doesn't even play today.

Then I started thinking about LSU and how exciting it is to watch them now, so much that I can't sleep in on Saturday when they don't even play. So anyway, I started thinking about why they are more enjoyable to watch now then they have been in a very long time. Part of it is the offense looking competent for the first time in years. While thinking about the difference I remembered the above post.

If Ensminger was such a miserable OC at his two previous stops, how the hell can the guy be promoted from tight-ends coach to OC and in one week not only have the team look completely different but set an all-time LSU offensive record.

The guy sucks and in his only three games as the LSU OC he has seen his offense set three all-time school records, outscored opponents 73-7 in the second half and made the offense fun to watch again.

LSU has been playing football since 1893 - 123 years. WTF, has LSU been so fricking horrible for 123 years that a tight-ends coach who has been a total failure in his past two stints in the job set 3 all-time school records in only 3 games.

I know LSU has never been considered a trailblazer on the offensive side of the ball, but they have had 123 years of trying, Gary Crowton and Jimbo Fisher - two guys who are considered to be pretty good offensive minded coaches. And then comes along a guy who worked at high schools in 3 of his last five jobs and he sets three offensive records at LSU. WTF !!!
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4303 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 8:28 am to
The same reason a failed HC has now somehow become the savior of the program in the Rant's eyes.

It truthfully just goes to show you how much Miles was holding the program back.

If LSU can pull all of that off with 2 misfits, imagine what the likes of Herman or Fisher could do with all the talent in this program.
This post was edited on 10/29/16 at 8:32 am
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
Member since Apr 2006
16903 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 8:36 am to
quote:

If LSU can pull all of that off with 2 misfits, imagine what the likes of Herman or Fisher could do with all the talent in this program.


And this is the essence of the people who aren't as keen on coach O as others.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70922 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:49 am to
quote:

If LSU can pull all of that off with 2 misfits, imagine what the likes of Herman or Fisher could do with all the talent in this program


Amen brotha.

But O will be the guy. Hopefully he gets Kiffin. Idk why Kiffin would leave Bama, but I won't ask questions.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24555 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:55 am to
quote:

If LSU can pull all of that off with 2 misfits, imagine what the likes of Herman


You are right, with Herman LSU should be able to beat Navy and keep the loss to SMU a lot closer. At Houston he doesn't have misfit coaches and a lot more talent than Navy and SMU.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66652 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:59 am to
The answer is multiple NFL caliber running backs vs shitty teams.

One being a once in a lifetime type player.
Posted by Eauxld Geauxld
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2005
1185 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 10:01 am to
quote:

You are right, with Herman LSU should be able to beat Navy and keep the loss to SMU a lot closer. At Houston he doesn't have misfit coaches and a lot more talent than Navy and SMU.


if Ceauxch Eaux can win out and keep this recruiting class together......L.S.U. would be crazy not to retain him............which is probably why he will not be hired.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4303 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 10:42 am to
This is the worst argument you O lovers keep coming up with. He lost to Navy, SMU, and UConn as the coach of Houston. He's also beaten
FSU, Louisville and Oklahoma with a less talented team and against coaches perceived to be in the elite category.

Don't forget, Saban has lost to ULM and Utah with more talented teams and coaches not perceived as elite.
Posted by mikrit54
Robeline
Member since Oct 2013
8664 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 10:48 am to
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24555 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:01 am to
quote:

FSU, Louisville and Oklahoma


FSU who played in the playoffs the year before? Who had a back up QB playing in the Chik-Fil-A bowl on 12/31 a year later against a Houston team?

Oklahoma whose biggest wins this year were against a 4-3 TCU team 52-46 and a 3-4 Texas team 45-40. SMU would beat OU also worse than Houston did. Not something to hang your hat on.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26820 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:03 am to

Ensminger was probably the hottest offensive coordinator in the country in the early to mid 90s. Huge numbers at Georgia and Texas A&M. It's true he did not fair so well at Clemson and Auburn, but Auburn was a train wreck with Tuberville and lots of careers were ruined there.

Not talking specifically about Ensminger, but coordinators should be judged on their whole body of work. It's easy for a coordinator to be stuck in a position where the personnel is not good, or the head coach won't let him call the games his way, thus making him unsuccessful.

So, Ensminger has had tremendous success and he has failed. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. He probably needs to go back to tight-ends coach next year, yet have an expanded role in offensive game-plan formation.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24555 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:21 am to
quote:

He lost to Navy, SMU, and UConn. He's also beaten
FSU, Louisville and Oklahoma


So how does a coach go from beating FSU, Louisville and Oklahoma to losing to Navy, struggling against Tulsa and getting his arse kicked by SMU?

That would be like saying he beat Florida, Arkansas and Ole Mis at LSU. Disregard the fact he lost to Mississippi State, Kentucky and Vanderbilt.

The losses count !!! And to lose to bottom feeders won't make up for wins against against UF, Ark and Ole Miss.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24423 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:35 am to
He is terrible. I posted this before. Les hired him BECAUSE he ran the same shite offense at TAMU under RC Slocum. He CANNOT be the OC if O gets hired and I'm afraid that is what will happen. So that is just another reason why I want someone other than O. I would call and interview Briles son at Baylor.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24555 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:48 am to
quote:

He is terrible. I posted this before


Then how has his offense set three all-time LSU records and outscored opponents 73-7 in the second half in only three games?
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

And then comes along a guy who worked at high schools in 3 of his last five jobs and he sets three offensive records at LSU. WTF !!!


It is truly simple to give you a reason with a very tried and true analogy, it is difficult to make chicken salad out of chicken shite!

Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24423 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Then how has his offense set three all-time LSU records and outscored opponents 73-7 in the second half in only three games?


Put our offense with Les as the coach against the 78th, 79th and 89th ranked defenses and he likely wins. Our defense is ranked 7th in scoring defense. That means we get
More opportunities to score as well.

WtH is wrong with you people?
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20361 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 1:07 pm to
He's also getting his arse kicked by UCF as I type.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24555 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

It truthfully just goes to show you how much Miles was holding the program back.



For 123 years???
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32891 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 1:20 pm to
What I'm getting out of this thread is that most don't know anything
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

Idk why Kiffin would leave Bama, but I won't ask questions.

Awkward situation between him and Saban. They apparently don't like each other and it was RUMORED last year that Kiffin crossed a major line.
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