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re: Canada's Offense 2016 (No huddle) *Pitt vs Virginia Tech added*
Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:17 pm to geauxtigahs87
Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:17 pm to geauxtigahs87
Gonna be fun to watch, I'm ready
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:56 pm to geauxtigahs87
This shite right here is a beautiful play. I can't even imagine seeing LSU run something like this.
Video will open at the play - 2 point conversion right after the offensive tackle scores a TD on a running play.
https://youtu.be/QopRTVWq5M0?t=667
PS: I think it would be better if you could do a separate thread for each game. Just my opinion though and thanks for posting these.
Video will open at the play - 2 point conversion right after the offensive tackle scores a TD on a running play.
https://youtu.be/QopRTVWq5M0?t=667
PS: I think it would be better if you could do a separate thread for each game. Just my opinion though and thanks for posting these.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:13 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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only one of these is consistently put a bunch of talent in the NFL in the last 5-7 years.
ACC is a close second to the SEC in NFL draft picks. Miami and FSU are top 5 in NFL players produced. Clemson top 10. The other schools I mentioned produce a handful of draft picks every year.
Besides, most of the SEC West was terrible defensively last season. Arkansas and the two Mississippi schools were somewhere in the 100s in Yards Per Play. A&M was 50something and we of course ran all over them. Luckily we don't have to play ourselves. So that leaves Auburn and Bama, which, we already knew our coaches would have to earn their paychecks vs. those teams.
All I wanted to convey was that the the SEC isn't the only league with freakish athletes playing defense. If the offense doesn't work this fall it most likely won't be because jet sweeps simply "won't work against SEC speed"... just wanted to refute that notion.
I'm in wait and see mode like everyone else apart from that.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:10 pm to geauxtigahs87
That damn shovel pass will kill teams also.
tebow and Hernandez were great with that in the red zone.
tebow and Hernandez were great with that in the red zone.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:16 pm to Fat Bastard
3 observations...
SEC defenses are gonna tee off on that jet sweep.
Pitt's OL got very little push...may be because of technique/scheme.
If James Conner had any speed he would have scored A LOT more Td's.
SEC defenses are gonna tee off on that jet sweep.
Pitt's OL got very little push...may be because of technique/scheme.
If James Conner had any speed he would have scored A LOT more Td's.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:31 pm to geauxtigahs87
i watched the pitt va tech, drunkenly,....but was not impressed by the Pitt O....Bama def eats that crap up...heck ole Bud what's his name at VT almost did and thats a far cry from the elephants
Posted on 7/20/17 at 6:28 am to SoloTiger
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SEC defenses are gonna tee off on that jet sweep.
Fantastic. Let them tee off on it. That's the whole point of a misdirection offense.
Did you notice how Pitt kept running the jet sweep against VT even though it (seemingly) never worked? Did you see Pitt gashing them up the middle later in the game? Those two things are related.
Case in point: watch the VT play at 9:05. Watch the linebackers closely...do you see them as they start chasing the jet sweep and run themselves out of the play? Now imagine Pitt's RB is Guice.
Another example...watch the play at 9:34. Notice how the threat of the jet sweep to the right holds the safeties at bay while the RB goes left. Because those safeties had to defend the jet sweep, they couldn't get to other side of the field fast enough, which turned a would-be 5 yard gain into a 40 yard gain. If that was Guice, that's a TD.
Yet another example...play at 7:15. The entire defense drifts to the jet sweep side while the RB goes the other way again. That's another TD for Guice.
In other words, you know how we say that teams keep putting 8 or 9 men in the box to stop LSU? Well, that's perfect for this offense. Let them put their safeties in the box. They'll be all the more screwed when they guess wrong and are out of position to make the TD-saving tackle.
BTW...VT's defense is no slouch. They finished 18th in the NCAA in total defense last year.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 9:29 am
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:03 am to SoloTiger
Jet sweep and reverses won't do much for us against a team like bama, but my only hope is Canada and O learned something from Les Miles. If it doesn't work try something else
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:19 am to SoloTiger
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SEC defenses are gonna tee off on that jet sweep.
To tee off on it they will have to be ready for it. To be ready for it they will have to practice how to stop it, who will run it, where it will go, when it will be run, etc.
When SEC teams take the time to worry about and practice to "tee off" on the jet sweep, it means the jet sweep is already very effective before LSU even jogs onto the football field for the game.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:23 am to cuyahoga tiger
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Bama def eats that crap up...heck ole Bud what's his name at VT almost did and thats a far cry from the elephants
Giving up 36 points is eating an offense up. Good thing ole Bud did so great or he would have easily given up over half a hundred.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:30 am to bugafor6
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Jet sweep and reverses won't do much for us against a team like bama
Alabama will have to prepare for jet sweeps, reverses, shovel passes, etc. That makes it an advantage for LSU.
I don't know how many times it has been posted on this board, probably even this thread, but if the jet sweep is totally unsuccessful against a team, that is a GREAT thing for LSU. When a defense sells out to stop the jet sweep it will open up two or three other things for the LSU offense to exploit. Runs up the middle, shovel passes up the middle, passes down the sideline or over the middle, etc, etc, etc.
The jet sweep is an offensive weapon, no doubt, but it also gives the defense another play that they must defend or get their butts kicked if they don't. Canada's been doing it long enough that he should be able to recognize what the defense is doing and adjust appropriately to beat them somewhere else. This AINT Cam Cameron's offense any longer.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 8:31 am
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:33 am to Tiger Ree
I think the reason people are skeptical about the jet sweep is because their notion of the jet sweep is that it's supposed to be some sort of "homerun" play.
In some offenses, it might be. But in Canada's offense, it's not. It's a bread-and-butter play used to set the defense up for other plays to be successful. It's similar to running the ball in order to set up play-action.
The jet sweeps in Canada's offense aren't meant to be big-gainers. They are meant to stretch the defense out, tire them, keep them honest, and keep them guessing. It's fine if they only gain a couple of yards. What Canada wants is the constant threat of the WR getting around the defense on any given play.
In some offenses, it might be. But in Canada's offense, it's not. It's a bread-and-butter play used to set the defense up for other plays to be successful. It's similar to running the ball in order to set up play-action.
The jet sweeps in Canada's offense aren't meant to be big-gainers. They are meant to stretch the defense out, tire them, keep them honest, and keep them guessing. It's fine if they only gain a couple of yards. What Canada wants is the constant threat of the WR getting around the defense on any given play.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:01 am to bugafor6
Is Bama somehow immune to deception? The notion that it will work on every team but Bama states that they somehow are above making mistakes and couldn't possibly over pursue or get caught looking.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:04 am to lsufb81
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Just watched. That offense for us will definitely be able to win 11 games on our schedule but it's too much power football to win against bama. Plus most of those jet sweeps will be swallowed up.
LSU may only need 20 points to win that game. Canada's sole focus in this game should be getting Guice and the receivers the ball in space. Bama's big advantage over LSU is their Dline vs our Oline. Get the ball in space quickly and watch everything even back up. Mark my words, there will be no more 1.8 ypc.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:10 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Is Bama somehow immune to deception?
They are not. Of course, Saban is the master of defensive preparedness and discipline, so pretty much any offense not led by a dual-threat Heisman QB is going to have a tough time scoring on them.
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The notion that it will work on every team but Bama states that they somehow are above making mistakes and couldn't possibly over pursue or get caught looking.
But yes, it all comes down to the players on the field. As good as Bama's defensive players are, they don't have ESP. They are just as mentally vulnerable as any other human being.
That's why I think Canada's offense is such a good fit for LSU.
LSU doesn't have a dual-threat Heisman candidate QB, so they have to go with the next best thing...misdirection.
Bama is too talented and too deep to wear out their defense physically. But you can wear them out mentally. When they have to anticipate 2 or 3 different threats before every snap, that takes its toll on the mind.
It's the exact opposite of what LSU has been trying (and failing) to do against Bama for the past few years. Bama's LBs knew LSU wasn't going to dump the ball to the TE or WR over the middle. All they had to do was stop LF7 and let the DBs handle the intermediate and deep passing game.
LSU has not mentally challenged Bama's LBs. They didn't have to worry about defending multiple threats every play. The only thing they had to worry about was whether LF7 was going left, right, or up the middle.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 9:13 am
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:19 am to UGATiger26
Amen 
Looking at that VT game, it was obvious to me that Pitt was the less talented team and they still managed 36 points.
That's the point. We will NEVER match Bama in depth and overall talent BUT with this offense we can still find a way to pull off a big play here and a decent drive there. With any luck, we can win the game.
Looking at that VT game, it was obvious to me that Pitt was the less talented team and they still managed 36 points.
That's the point. We will NEVER match Bama in depth and overall talent BUT with this offense we can still find a way to pull off a big play here and a decent drive there. With any luck, we can win the game.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:29 am to airfernando
Wow your an idiot.. we have NFL talent all over the field. We just have struggled at qb. Moron.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:45 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Bert Macklin FBI
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Amen
Just realized that was my 5000th post
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:57 am to bugafor6
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Jet sweep and reverses won't do much for us against a team like bama,
Another X and O ignorant rantard.
PLEASE.MAKE.IT.STOP.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:00 am to TheHat7
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Wow your an idiot..
Classic
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