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mikelbr
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re: Canada's Offense 2016 (No huddle) *Pitt vs Virginia Tech added*
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HUH? go back and watch what UF, Au and OSU have done to bama defenses using horizontal stretches which then opens up vertical plays.



Was coming to counter with exact sentiment.

Execution and unpredictability go a LONG way. This video makes me think Guice will break All-purpose yards records this season.



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re: Canada's Offense 2016 (No huddle) *Pitt vs Virginia Tech added*
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Execution and unpredictability go a LONG way. This video makes me think Guice will break All-purpose yards records this season.



agreed. he should get a ton of all purpose yards with the field opened up and unpredictable. we saw what urbans and malzahn's power spread/power read high tempo offense has done to bama defenses. Canada will have triple options on many plays. heck just the jet sweep either give or fake to man in motion, read DE and either give to back or pull out and take around end. it just adds a extra option to the basic zone read of RB or Qb by reading the DE whether he crahes or stays home and now you have a guy in motion you can give it to also. i am sure he will have lots of play action run pass options also to keep teams guessing.


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Fus0623
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re: Canada's Offense 2016 (No huddle) *Pitt vs Virginia Tech added*
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just don't know if a bunch of that sideline sweep stuff will work as much on the faster SEC defenses.

I hate to be a dick, but X's and O's threads like these really show who understands football concepts and who doesn't. Any window dressing that you can give a defense pre snap is an advantage for an offense. The last a defense wants to do is think, they want fire off the snap and read their keys. Shifting, Jet motion, Comet motion (back moving out) prevents them from doing that


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Lsuhoohoo
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re: Canada's Offense 2016 (No huddle) *Pitt vs Virginia Tech added*
I see a lot of intermediate throws designed to keep the chains moving. A RB slipping out of the backfield in short yardage and floating a pass to him to pick up a first. Simple passes that have been lacking under Miles.

I know Canada has run several styles of offense based on personnel but lets assume we're best suited for something similar to what he did at Pitt.

Who plays the role of Quadree Henderson? He played a pretty big role in Canada's offense last year. Early reports suggest this will be Chark's role. He's probably our fastest position player. I'd love to see Donte Jackson get a shot at these plays with that blazing speed but he may be too important to the defense this year to have him play two ways with any regularity.

Canada should be able to suitably recreate Aston at fullback between D Williams or Ducre.


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skullhawk
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re: Canada's Offense 2016 (No huddle) *Pitt vs Virginia Tech added*
I wonder who on this LSU roster is going to get those plays called for #35.

With the way Guice runs, I think he'll have a record breaking year if he stays healthy.

If/when teams commit to stuffing the run, it'll be interesting to see what Canada can do. The most effective passing play in that game was a fluke tip.



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deuce985
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I don't see those jet sweeps working well against the better SEC defenses. Teams like Florida or Bama will eat them alive with their team speed. Other than that, looks very interesting.

Honestly though, it all just depends on how well Etling plays. If they can make defense be forced into respecting stretching the outside and a half competent QB throwing the ball, you can really throw them off. I'm just not sold Etling is good enough against the better SEC defenses.
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Great stuff thx for your work. I truly enjoyed this. I can't wait to see his offense in action with our athletes


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Bert Macklin FBI
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re: Canada's Offense 2016 (No huddle) *Pitt vs Virginia Tech added*
Another good sign from that video is that we don't need GREAT Oline play for this offense to work.

Not saying we won't have a good line, just noticing that Pitt had a pretty bad one and the offense worked all the same.


Bert Macklin FBI
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Are people really not understanding that the actual success of the jet sweep doesn't matter?

Even if the play gets stopped for a short gain or for a loss, it still makes the defense commit a defender to it which is one less defender trying to tackle guice up the middle when we fake the sweep.
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lol this jet sweep action will be the new toss-dive


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skullhawk
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re: Canada's Offense 2016 (No huddle) *Pitt vs Virginia Tech added*
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Another good sign from that video is that we don't need GREAT Oline play for this offense to work.

Not saying we won't have a good line, just noticing that Pitt had a pretty bad one and the offense worked all the same.


Pitt gained 400 yards against the #60 defense in the country. The video didn't change my mind about Canada's offense. I'm cautiously optimistic but I do have concerns. At least it will be a different look for SEC defenses. That can't be a bad thing.


skullhawk
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re: Canada's Offense 2016 (No huddle) *Pitt vs Virginia Tech added*
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lol this jet sweep action will be the new toss-dive



Oh yea, LSU fans would be calling this offense gimmicky bull shite if another team was going up and down the field on LSU with it

That's the nature of fandom. It can't be rational.


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Bert Macklin FBI
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Regardless of the skilllevel of that defense, Pitts Oline was getting pushed around and they still managed to put up 400 yards.

In years past, if LSU's Oline got pushed around, our offense wasn't putting up squat. (See: Bama or Arky 2014 or 2015)
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ByteMe
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re: Canada's Offense 2016 (No huddle) *Pitt vs Virginia Tech added*
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Pitt gained 400 yards against the #60 defense in the country. The video didn't change my mind about Canada's offense.


Pitt also had 464 yards of Total Offense in the win against Clemson. Alabama had 473 yards Total Offense against Clemson in the Championship game.


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Guidge
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well done sir. You're doing god's work.


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tgerb8
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re: Canada's Offense 2016 (No huddle) *Pitt vs Virginia Tech added*
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TD pass to an OT... interesting


If Brennan/Paul Walker runs it, it's the Oopty-oop!

Watch this. Kilmer is gonna eat his ass.


Guidge
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counts as a run


thanks for clearing that up. I never knew how they got around the rule about only certain numbers can be receivers.


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south bama tiger
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re: Canada's Offense 2016 (No huddle) *Pitt vs Virginia Tech added*
Whenever Chark got the ball on a handoff last year, he usually got a lot of yards off of it. I think it'll work in Canada's offense. I think he'll be as integral to this offense as Guice or Etling actually.


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re: Canada's Offense 2016 (No huddle) *Pitt vs Virginia Tech added*
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I just don't know if a bunch of that sideline sweep stuff will work as much on the faster SEC defenses


ACC defenses have speed too. I think we need to stop perpetuating this myth that the SEC is so different.

NC State, Va Tech, Clemson, FSU, Louisville, to name a few have comparable defensive talent to your average team in the SEC.
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Guidge
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re: Canada's Offense 2016 (No huddle) *Pitt vs Virginia Tech added*
It uses the same concept of West Coast offenses: work the defense by making them run sideline to sideline every play and they will tire out. Spread the ball around so the work gets spread to multiple people and keeps them fresh, while the defense has to react to every play and go full speed every down.

Bama with Kiffin would not get many yards or points until the 3rd quarter. Then all of a sudden, they seem to dominating. Well, they were bc they were playing against defenses that were worn out.


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