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re: Brandon Harris/ LF7/ AJ Videos, Scrimmage Videos, Spring Break 4/12 Updates

Posted on 4/3/15 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 6:37 pm to
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So that's it? His sophomore year, one game, tells you that he can't improve? He can't move forward? He will never get any better whatsoever?



I am not trying to bash him, but how much time do you want to give this kid to show he can improve? One full season and he looks the same. This spring he "appears" to be the same.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203178 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 6:39 pm to
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I'm sure he'll bump one of his abortions of a thread later tonight



That dude has some serious typing skills.....
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3944 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 6:41 pm to
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On cue.

Justifying Harris' pick. It's ok. Just a great DB play.


No. It was a horrible decision. Awful throw.


I didn't say it was OK or that it was a great throw. I said it wasn't a pick six and that it was a great play by the DB. Try reading the whole statement again.

Harris' problem wasn't the throw. It was everything that happened before the throw. He turned to slow toward the intended receiver and still had a late release. The decision was sound. Now this is something similar to what Cam Cameron has already criticized him about, although at the time it was for taking an extra step before his release. Essentially the same issue on such a quick route. The ball has got to come out quicker.

But you try to convince me while I'm watching the video and that Jamal Adams didn't fake a blitz and step back into coverage then jump in the path of the throw near the line of scrimmage to pick it off.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 6:47 pm
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3944 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 6:49 pm to
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which means Adams might have gotten 3 picks in the scrimmage


At least.

Of course, they could consider that a pick 6 as a rule since it is spring practice.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 6:51 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66711 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 6:51 pm to
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Of course, they could consider that a pick 6 as a rule since it is spring practice.


they probably did

still probably a better play on Adams part than a bad play on the QBs
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:06 pm to
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Just a great play and read of the QB by Adams picking it off near the line of scrimmage.


Safety recognition is extremely important for a QB to be successful. It was JLee's main problem
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18963 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:17 pm to
I can respect that my man.

Yes, the offense ran into a major bump in the road last season but a major reason behind that was not having a QB waiting in the wings who had been on campus at 2 or more years already. The Gunner Kiel spurning left us with a major void after Mett's graduation.

It made for a messy situation for Cam Cameron to step into in 2013. Even though he was able to take the upperclass talent he inherited & make it shine, the lack of talented experience behind Mett put him in a bind going into 2014.

People have to remember Jennings fell into Cam's lap when he arrived. Jennings wasn't someone Cam recruited but he had to try to make it work due to the circumstances. Harris is Cam's guy. Despite Jennings being a 4* recruit & Elite 11 participant, I'm not really convinced that Jennings would have been pursued if Cam was handling the situation then. I think he looks for certain particulars from a mental perspective when he does his one on one evaluations with quarterback recruits. I could very well be wrong but Jennings doesn't jump off as someone Cam would pursue. Doesn't mean he can't evolve & develop in his system though.

It also irks me when posters on here go through their rants & shite on Cam like he doesn't know what the hell he's doing. He can coach up these quarter backs but he can't go out there & make the plays for them. Nor can he make them absorb the information he's providing any faster despite what any fan says. He didn't become someone who is as highly respected in the football world without knowing what he is doing. Philip Rivers, Joe Flacco, Drew Brees & Mett all seem to agree that they were better off from his lessons during their development stages. QB guru George Whitfield seems to agree as well. He says he owes everything he knows to Cam Cameron. The longer Cam hangs around, the more stable our quarterback situation will be moving forward.

Whitfield, Cameron share longtime bond

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Michigan. USC. Stanford. LSU? Three of those football powers are known for their abilities to attract the nation’s top quarterback prospects. The fourth could join their ranks, said quarterback guru George Whitfield Jr., largely because of his mentor, Cam Cameron.

“When your guy that you spend all day with -- meetings, practice, this and that -- has built and grown Drew Brees, [Philip] Rivers, [Joe] Flacco, who two of the three have won Super Bowls and the other one I think is one of the top six, seven, eight quarterbacks in the league, and now you get a chance to partake in this? That’s what I’m telling you. This is one of the top destination spots now,” Whitfield said during a visit to LSU.

“If I’m a big-time high school quarterback with aspirations to play in the NFL and I want to win in college, this is one of those places on one hand now that you’re going to find. And they will be for some time. The recruiting’s going to shift now.”


Whitfield made that quote a year ago. If you look at what Cam has done in landing Brandon Harris & who he has coming down the pipeline, you realize Whitfield is spot on in his prediction.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 7:39 pm
Posted by BigBrod81
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Member since Sep 2010
18963 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:26 pm to
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Harris' problem wasn't the throw. It was everything that happened before the throw. He turned to slow toward the intended receiver and still had a late release. The decision was sound. Now this is something similar to what Cam Cameron has already criticized him about, although at the time it was for taking an extra step before his release. Essentially the same issue on such a quick route. The ball has got to come out quicker.


Yep. Its the same puncher's step Cam had him running his arse off last spring for doing.

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Cam Cameron was determined to prove his point, no matter how many laps around the LSU practice fields in the sweltering Bayou humidity it took.

The message Cameron was aiming to teach his precocious 18-year-old early enrolled quarterback was that, no matter what, he could not keep taking that dang false step.

"It's gonna get us beat," Cameron kept telling the kid.

"You're gonna be late."


Brandon Harris had been doing it ever since he arrived in Baton Rouge. Heck, he did it in high school too. But those days were over -- although Cameron's message actually reached more than just his young QB.

"We don't take a punch step for a right hander," Cameron said. "We pivot on our left foot. We think that allows us to get the ball out faster, whether it's off of one step or a quick three or a quick five."

Harris got away with being a step more deliberate in high school. In the SEC, Cameron warned him, that extra step was going to muck everything up and probably would translate into some Pick-6s. So the coach started keeping tabs on Harris' footwork. Every false step in every rep meant an extra lap after practice.


LINK
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260981 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:28 pm to
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Problem is, if the kid isn't good enough, people automatically think Miles just loves seniors and it has nothing to do with performance without seeing any of them play at practice.


The fact Jennings continued to play in games he clearly was failing led to some of that speculation. I understand the frustration.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18963 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:30 pm to
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The ND game is when I realized the problems Jennings have can't be fixed in the film room or during drills.


How many Pro Bowl & Super Bowl winning quarterbacks have you coached & developed over your life span?
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:18 pm to
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The thing I hate about you and people of your ilk around here, is that you criticism other people for supposedly denigrating players, but you turn around and do the same thing, and it's quite often about players that have performed extremely well. 



No it dont. Ive never denigrated any lsu player. Find one post of me saying a lsu football wasnt good.
Saying certain players had bad games isnt denigrating. Its called reality.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:18 pm to
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Jax is RickiesDaddy's alter. He's been doing the same shite for years.



I havent talked shite about 1 player. Find one post
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 10:19 pm
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:25 pm to
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Safety recognition is extremely important for a QB to be successful. It was JLee's main problem


JLee's main problen was dropping his eyes once his pocket got muddy.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:55 pm to
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Of course they both threw picks in spring pra


I wonder if it helps the DBs covering the same Rs practice after practice, knowing some of the O play book, and watching the QBs practice after practice after practice???

Personally, I think wayyyyyy to much can be made of all this stuff, but that's what we do with football at LSU.

Posted by Quid Pro Quo
SEC
Member since Dec 2013
541 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:58 pm to
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People are tired of the poor QB play at LSU simple as that. This is Jennings last chance to show and prove. As it stands he can't even beat out a guy who has next to no playing time in comparison to him, but managed to put up almost as many tds as he did.


Harris put of 6 TDs and 3 Rushing TDs and accounted for 25% of the total scoring by the team in 13 drives over a spot appearances in a couple of games. In the last 11 games of the season Jennings had 6 TDs and 6 INTs, 20 sks, 7 fumbles, 3 lost. Jennings had the lowest ppm scoring rate in the nation over the last 4 SEC games, half as much as SMU the overall lowest team, Harris had a scoring efficiency 2x as high as Oregon, the highest in the nation.

People are tired of poor QB play, 10 yrs under Miles with only 3 yrs around the 50th percentile and the rest WELL BELOW, and they have a stadium they need to fill.

Les Miles Achilles Heel of no Star QB Keeping LSU out of NCAA Title Discussion

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LSU played with one hand tied behind its back in 2014, and that one hand happened to belong to its quarterback.The Tigers had the top-rated defense in the SEC and still lost five games. They were 14th out of 14 SEC teams through the air in the regular season.

I was in the end zone during overtime when LSU was trying to match Alabama in Death Valley on Nov. 8. The sophomore Jennings tried to win the game with throw-them-open flares to the end zone. Bad reads. Bad calls or bad checks.


Posted by Quid Pro Quo
SEC
Member since Dec 2013
541 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:00 pm to
Cameron refers to Harris' Bionic Arm:

"Brandon's anticipation has improved dramatically."
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Harris is "a little bit more explosive" than Jennings, Miles acknowledged, but the sophomore has had to sync up his footwork with his strong arm. According to Cameron, there's a bad habit among bionic-armed quarterbacks: throwing the ball later than they should simply because they can against high school defenses. "You're not going to get away with that in this conference consistently," Cameron said. "He's never had to be a rhythm passer. This sounds crazy, but for the first time in his life, he's having to learn how to anticipate. That's why a lot of guys with big arms fail. They never learn how to anticipate. "Brandon's anticipation has improved dramatically."


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"You want to stack bricks, keep stacking performances," Cameron said. "What does that mean? Each performance you keep getting better. This week will be very telling. If one guy levels off and one of these guys keeps stacking performances, [the starter] will be obvious to everybody."
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:09 pm to
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f one guy levels off and one of these guys keeps stacking performances, [the starter] will be obvious to everybody."


Interesting.....
Posted by Quid Pro Quo
SEC
Member since Dec 2013
541 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:17 pm to
Cameron said that on Monday at the beginning of this week. Here is the full link if you haven't already read it. Monday 3/30: LSU sees Progress Little Separation at QB
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:22 pm to
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Cameron has seen improved footwork and more confident decision-making from Jennings, who completed 50 percent or less of his attempts in all but two SEC games and eclipsed 60 percent completions just once. Perhaps most important, Jennings is driving his throws better, a must in a league in which few secondaries play off-man or zone coverage. Jennings appeared to have the edge in Saturday's scrimmage, passing for 200 yards and two touchdowns.


Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18963 posts
Posted on 4/4/15 at 12:04 am to
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Quid Pro Quo


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