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re: Booger McFarland's comments on Finebaum
Posted on 7/25/15 at 4:38 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 7/25/15 at 4:38 pm to Rickdaddy4188
BTW, that bucket hat looked nice.
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 4:47 pm to Tigerinthehollow
Just getting back to this conversation, as our dog got into it with a bobcat in the woods behind our house, and I needed to see how that was going.
To those in the hollow who continue to try to pick a bad game someone played to re- write history and make their case that JJ was a horrible QB, I remember some good things he did for LSU football over his time in BR. I like to think that if he had only one OC in his career, instead of 3 or 4, he may have picked up the game plans and may not have played as badly at some times. Other times, such as against Bama in the '11 regular season game, he came in when JL was having a rough time and gave us exactly what his coaches asked of him. And we won. He was not as horrible as many like to say- but his last LSU game happened to be the NC game, and Saban had 6 weeks (yeah, Bama got to sit at home the first week of December, with no opponent to game plan for other than LSU, while we were in Atlanta fighting it out with Georgia) to prepare for him. Saban is very good when given the prep time like that, not as good when faced with surprises ( like Les playing JJ in the reg season game after JL had played virtually all year). '11 was possibly the best LSU team in history, and only happened because we had a seasoned and effective JL ready to play after the Shady's fiasco. And 10-12 DL rolling in and dominating opponents in the 2nd half. The lines determine how far a team can go.
To those in the hollow who continue to try to pick a bad game someone played to re- write history and make their case that JJ was a horrible QB, I remember some good things he did for LSU football over his time in BR. I like to think that if he had only one OC in his career, instead of 3 or 4, he may have picked up the game plans and may not have played as badly at some times. Other times, such as against Bama in the '11 regular season game, he came in when JL was having a rough time and gave us exactly what his coaches asked of him. And we won. He was not as horrible as many like to say- but his last LSU game happened to be the NC game, and Saban had 6 weeks (yeah, Bama got to sit at home the first week of December, with no opponent to game plan for other than LSU, while we were in Atlanta fighting it out with Georgia) to prepare for him. Saban is very good when given the prep time like that, not as good when faced with surprises ( like Les playing JJ in the reg season game after JL had played virtually all year). '11 was possibly the best LSU team in history, and only happened because we had a seasoned and effective JL ready to play after the Shady's fiasco. And 10-12 DL rolling in and dominating opponents in the 2nd half. The lines determine how far a team can go.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 6:19 pm to Fight4LSU
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That 2011 defense was special, and it was because of Tyrann Mathieu. We don't have a Tyrann Mathieu anymore, no one does really. Dude wrecked everyone’s offensive game plans.
Honey Badger saved several games, Oregon, WV, Ark, Geo, so it’s hard to compare. He was truly one of the greatest game changers ever in college football history, much less LSU.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 7:05 pm to themunch
And Dwayne Thomas!!!
Posted on 7/25/15 at 7:15 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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can't believe you are defending JJ. You do realize that Miles put him back starting against a couple of lightweights.....
Stating facts about JJ'S career ISN'T DEFENDING him. It's reality
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then of course the massive bed shitting when he played Alabama again.
While JJ was horrible in that game, our entire offense was shite.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 7:21 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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you watch the Arkansas game in 2011? He was absolutely pathetic early on until special teams and the D could make something happen.
Yeah I watched the Arky game. JJ had the best game of any lsu qb in 2011.
JJ accounted for 261 yards of our 494 yards of offense. JJ had 52% of our entire offensive output against arky.
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he was fkn horrible......JL was MUCH better than him. PERIOD>
Is that why JJ has
Better career compl %
Better career yards per game
Better td/int ratio
Better career qb rating.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
JJ ranks top 6 in every major passing statistic in lsu history.
he was fkn horrible......JL was MUCH better than him. PERIOD>
THESE ARE NOT MY OPINIONS. THEY ARE FACTS
Posted on 7/25/15 at 7:32 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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but we really do have some absolute dumb mf's on this site
Starting with you.
JJ'S Career rankings in lsu history
6th in career completion %
5th in career td passes
6th in career passing yards
5th in total offensive yards
5th in total tds
1st in career qb rushing
1st in single season qb rushing
You're shitting on lsu football when you say JJ sucked his entire career because he is top 6 in every major passing statistic in lsu history.
You can't suck your entire career and finish top 6 in every major passing statistic at a top 15 alltime program.
THE NUMBERS ABOVE ARE NOT MY OPINIONS. THEY ARE FACTS.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 7:37 pm to TBoltright
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o those in the hollow who continue to try to pick a bad game someone played to re- write history and make their case that JJ was a horrible QB, I remember some good things he did for LSU football over his time in BR. I like to think that if he had only one OC in his career, instead of 3 or 4, he may have picked up the game plans and may not have played as badly at some times.
What's really laughable is that if you asked lsu fans if they would take a 3 year starter ( JJ started just under 3 seasons) that would finish top 6 in every major passing statistic in lsu history, every single one would say, "Hell Yes". It's comical. So many of here are so jaded towards JJ ( some of its warranted) that they can't look back on his career objectively.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 7:43 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You're shitting on lsu football when you say JJ sucked his entire career because he is top 6 in every major passing statistic in lsu history.
I can not honestly believe you're still carrying a torch for this guy. Ok... he's in the record books. Big fricking deal. Did he lead us to a NC? No. Was he a pain in the azz for Miles? Yes. Did he have character issues? You betcha. Was he a good representative for LSU?? Hell to the frick no!!!!
Was he part of the biggest bed-shitting episode in LSU sports history? Front and center.
I can't imagine 20 years from anyone is going to be looking back at his career with fond memories.
You're trying too hard.
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 7/25/15 at 8:15 pm to RedTigerRulz
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can not honestly believe you're still carrying a torch for this gu
Im not carrying shite. I'm stating facts on a lsu players career stats.
The only reason I said anything is because Hollow said that our 2015-16 qbs just need to improve slightly and they would be as productive as JJ, which isn't close to true. JJ never had a season come close to last year's stats. In fact JJ'S 2009 season is the 10th best season for a lsu qb in passing yards.
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You're trying too hard.
Again, I'm not trying at all. I'm stating JJ'S career rankings in lsu history.
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Was he a pain in the azz for Miles
He got in trouble 1 time at lsu for a bar fight and the charges were dropped.
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... he's in the record books. Big fricking deal
Wow. I'm pretty sure finishing top 6 in every major passing statistic in lsu history is more of an accomplishment than any thing you've ever done. But I don't know you so I can't say it's so.
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 7/25/15 at 8:27 pm to deuce985
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It's really unrealistic and unfair to say these guys are going to be like the 2011 defense.
We won't be facing Oregon and wvu. Teams that pretty much could score at will on anyone but LSU that season.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:37 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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What's really laughable is that if you asked lsu fans if they would take a 3 year starter ( JJ started just under 3 seasons) that would finish top 6 in every major passing statistic in lsu history, every single one would say, "Hell Yes". It's comical. So many of here are so jaded towards JJ ( some of its warranted) that they can't look back on his career objectively.
The only reason he ranks that high is because he started for 3 years. LSU has had very few 3 year starters and he played in a time where they played 13 games including the bowls. I am not bashing JJ, his body of work speaks for itself. But if want to defend him lets throw everything out there.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:42 pm to jasonthetiger
This team definitely isn't as good as the 2011 team, but it has the talent to win the same amount of games. We don't have to win by 30 every (ish) time. Just 1.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:56 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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The only reason he ranks that high is because he started for 3 years
That's not true. He started just over 2 years worth of games.
That may matter if he didn't have one of the best completion % in lsu history. I guess you skimmed over his 2009 season being the 9 best in lsu history. But he didn't not start for 3 years.
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But if want to defend him lets throw everything out there.
I am. Say what you want but his career completion % is 6th best and his career qb rating is 9th best. He also has the single season qb rushing record.
Look I'm not saying JJ was even a good qb. His ceiling was slightly above average but he didn't suck his entire career. He is 5th alltime in starts. And his carree rankings are where they should be for a player with that many starts. But if he sucked his entire career he would be no where near the top 6. That's all I'm saying.
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 7/25/15 at 10:34 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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Did you watch the Arkansas game in 2011? He was absolutely pathetic
You are one dumb shite.
JJ had almost 275 yards of total offense, completed 62% of his passes, and had two TDs. That's absolutely pathetic in your mind? You must be half way brain dead.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:00 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
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remember in passes of 15 yards or more, we had more interceptions than completions allowed
I had no idea. That's truly incredible. Probably never been accomplished before or again the last 50 years.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:21 pm to LSU Groupee
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had almost 275 yards of total offense, completed 62% of his passes, and had two TDs. That's absolutely pathetic in your mind? You must be half way brain dead.
Exactly JJ had 52% of our entire offensive output. JJ had more rushing yards than Arky's entire team. I swear some people just hate JJ. Was he great qb? No. He was mostly average, but he didn't suck his entire career like some people on here claim.
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 7/26/15 at 12:15 am to Rickdaddy4188
What's funny is no one knew that 2011 team would be as good as it was.
People had questions about how Brockers would transition into a college DT.
We don't know how bad or good this team will be this year. Wait until they played some games before you say the DL's are not as good as Brockers, Logan, and co.
People had questions about how Brockers would transition into a college DT.
We don't know how bad or good this team will be this year. Wait until they played some games before you say the DL's are not as good as Brockers, Logan, and co.
Posted on 7/26/15 at 8:40 am to udtiger
Wow...116 downvotes (at this point). A whole lot of people living in denial (or just don't like truth). Kudos to the 16 who upvoted.
I truly hope I am wrong, and stand ready for anyone to point to anything Miles has done since 1/8/12 that shows my post is not grounded in fact.
I truly hope I am wrong, and stand ready for anyone to point to anything Miles has done since 1/8/12 that shows my post is not grounded in fact.
Posted on 7/26/15 at 9:23 am to udtiger
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I truly hope I am wrong, and stand ready for anyone to point to anything Miles has done since 1/8/12 that shows my post is not grounded in fact.
Well, let's see...
He demoted Greg Studrawa from Offensive Coordinator and brought in Cam Cameron. He then terminated Greg Studrawa and brought in Jeff Grimes. He brought in Tony Ball to coach WRs when Adam Henry was called to the NFL, and he retained Frank Wilson during this time.
He also terminated Brick Haley and brought in Ed Orgeron, the most renowned DL coach in the country, and acquired Kevin Steele, one of the best LB coaches in the country, with DC experience, to pair with Corey Raymond, the BEST DB coach in the country upon Ron Cooper's departure.
All the while, recruiting from 1/8/12 onward has been the best it's been in the history of the program.
GFY
This post was edited on 7/26/15 at 9:27 am
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