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Bobby Hebert on LSU
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:09 pm
Listening to Bobby Hebert comment on LSU's offense on radio. He said what I've been thinking-that LSU's offense doesn't do anything to confuse the defense. That if the linebackers are loading up for the run, LSU should use play action, or drag a tight end across the field behind them, etc.
Les blames the problem on execution. But when the other team has equally talented athletes, you're not going to out-execute them consistently if their defense doesn't have to be concerned with how a play might develop differently then they expect. Example-the triple option has 2 other parts that we never use-a pass or a hand off to a back other than the pitch back. It helps keep the safeties and cornerbacks honest. I've never seen us do either. Anyhow, just my opinion FWIW.
Les blames the problem on execution. But when the other team has equally talented athletes, you're not going to out-execute them consistently if their defense doesn't have to be concerned with how a play might develop differently then they expect. Example-the triple option has 2 other parts that we never use-a pass or a hand off to a back other than the pitch back. It helps keep the safeties and cornerbacks honest. I've never seen us do either. Anyhow, just my opinion FWIW.
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:13 pm to wil
I think Bobby is dead-on! If you're not talented enough to overpower the defense, pretty much your only option is to try to confuse them. The trick is to not confuse yourself and that may be part of what Crowton and Miles are concerned with an inexperienced QB. I say let er rip!
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:13 pm to wil
wait, LSU has an offense?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:16 pm to Hootie
And they didn't have anything to lose by letting her rip Saturday, considering there was no offense in the second half.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:18 pm to wil
i wonder if les considers LSU offensvie performance saturday a 'good go'
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:18 pm to wil
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Bobby Hebert
Does he mention T-Bob at all?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:19 pm to RagingStiff
thats got to be awkward, to be a highly profile guy whose son is struggling right now
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:19 pm to wil
Maybe he could tell us why his son can't block
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:21 pm to wil
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LSU should use play action
Yep. Everybody who knows anything about offense knows this, but still, we keep doing other bullshite instead. It's truly baffling.
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Les blames the problem on execution. But when the other team has equally talented athletes, you're not going to out-execute them consistently if their defense doesn't have to be concerned with how a play might develop differently then they expect.
Exactly. People complained a lot about the center and guards, but really, they're not doing a terrible job on the run. If you look at our running stats in situations where it's not obvious that we're just going to run up the middle, it's not that bad. Even the much-maligned option play is not as bad as people make it out to be.
Having our RBs rush 18 times for 67 yards against UF's defense is actually not too bad, considering that we ran three times from 1st and goal at the 10, and a couple of times on situations like 3rd and 1 and stuff.
The problem is that nobody respects our deep threat, and that whenever LSU passes, the entire play (including the receiver LSU wants to throw to) is transparent as soon as the ball is snapped.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:22 pm to Hootie
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option
Please, no more of this.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:23 pm to wil
I agree with Bobby Hebert.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:24 pm to wil
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LSU should use play action
we do use play action, but only to throw 35 yard crossing patterns, which by the time the receiver breaks open, JJ has already been sacked and the refs are spotting the ball for the next play
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:25 pm to wil
thats so true bobbyPosted on 10/12/09 at 6:26 pm to kkille1lsu
I think that the problems run blocking are more due to play calling than the linemen. When everyone knows it's a run play (which was Hebert's and my point), the defense has too many people at the point of attack for the linemren to block.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:27 pm to DanceCommander
It's hard to disagree with you on that. Everytime tehy run the option, I start to feel ill.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:27 pm to wil
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I think that the problems run blocking are more due to play calling than the linemen. When everyone knows it's a run play (which was Hebert's and my point), the defense has too many people at the point of attack for the linemren to block.
+1
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:28 pm to tigermoney
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we do use play action, but only to throw 35 yard crossing patterns, which by the time the receiver breaks open, JJ has already been sacked and the refs are spotting the ball for the next play
This
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:30 pm to wil
as much as i liked our O in '07, it seems to me that Crowton just doesn't design the right plays for THIS offense. i feel stupid buying into the "wizard" moniker.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:32 pm to tigermoney
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we do use play action, but only to throw 35 yard crossing patterns, which by the time the receiver breaks open, JJ has already been sacked and the refs are spotting the ball for the next play
This is just not true. On true play action plays, LSU's passing game has been pretty good this year. The problem is that LSU only does it about once or twice a game, and even after a successful long play, never go to it again. Instead, the Tigers prefer to pass out of bullshite formations like the "pistol."
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:33 pm to wil
use our tight end like they (FL) were using Hernandez against us!!!
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