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Posted on 2/21/16 at 5:08 pm to SL Tiger
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I hope that the Simmons family realizes that the few jackasses on this site don't represent the majority of LSU fans. He chose to play for LSU and he is a Tiger. We had another "superstar" while I was attending LSU and I'm glad that we didn't have a format where every turncoat MFer could express their opinions when he had a miserable night at the free-throw line. I wonder what you people would be saying about Shaq if he were playing at LSU right now?? We thought that LSU would win a NC when we had Shaq, Stanley, and Jackson on the same team. It didn't happen. This isn't knock on Simmons but ask yourself this question...What would this years team look like if you replaced Simmons with Shaq? We give up easy inside shots and allow way too many offensive rebounds. What did Shaq do better than any one in college? He blocked shots, protected the goal, and limited second chance shots. Two great players with different skill-sets. One more dominant in the college game where players haven't reached their physical peaks.
There is one consistent factor between this team and the Shaq years. CJJ learned from Dale Brown so why would we expect different results? It's on the coach to leverage his team's strengths against the opposing teams weakness. CJJ can't do that just like Dale couldn't do that. I guarantee that I'm as frustrated as anyone and days like yesterday are like a fricking punch in the stomach. Everyone has a choice when it comes to the content that you post on a public forum. You can make a choice to keep your negative BS comments to yourself. You can also make a choice to attack the player, the coach, and the administration.
Being one of the guys who (publicly) predicted Simmons downfall doesn't make you special. It makes you a sellout and shitty LSU fan. If you feel the need to attack the kid, go up to his father during a game and talk the shite that you do on this website. If you insist on being that type of "fan" go ahead and attack the coach. Leave the kid alone...
Fuk you, self-righteous arse hole
Posted on 2/21/16 at 5:23 pm to LSU92
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The guy was damn good. It sucks that a few LSU fans like yourself don't understand that.
I understand that he was a great recruiter and motivator. He wasn't better than average as a technical coach. He sometimes overachieved with less talent but also underachieved with more talent. I appreciate Dale for what he accomplished at LSU over a very long timeframe. Your comments actually made me reflect on all of the good that he did for LSU and I do believe that he is HOF worthy.
You also have to realize that I was attending LSU at the time when the Lester Earl situation occurred and it was very damaging. If his subsequent apology was truthful, it's a shame that Dale's legacy was tainted forever. All of that doesn't change the fact that Dale had (arguably) one of the most talented college basketball teams in history with Shaq, CJ, and Stanley and couldn't produce a title. If you don't believe that, ask yourself which team had a better shooter than Chris Jackson? Which team had a more dominant inside player than Shaq? How do you lose as many games as we did with that combination? And the remaining cast of players were not a bunch of scrubs. Shaq could take it to the rim with 3 players hanging on him. The thing is,,,he didn't have to. CJ could make shots within 15' at an insane percentage. It takes a special coach to handle that type of talent and get the most out of them.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 5:31 pm to LSUBlitzkrieg
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Fuk you, self-righteous arse hole
Having balls while you're hiding behind a computer doesn't make you a badass. It makes you a pussy.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 5:41 pm to SL Tiger
It strikes me as funny that some people on the Rant think that only we trash our coaches and players. Go to the Kentucky board. Some of their fans have been calling for Callipari's firing and say he is a terrible X&O's coach who can only recruit. Sound familiar?
Every fan in the SEC also express opinions about their players, pro or con. That's what fans do. Some feel it is their duty to only say glowing positive things about the players and other's are ready to trash them for one mistake.
I for one am getting disgusted with the whole college sports thing. It has become a parody of itself. CJJ benches Simmons for some "academic infraction", probably for not going to class. Simmons apparently gets pissed off because he and everyone else knows he is not going to be here after the end of basketball season so why should he have to go to class.
Of course he doesn't bench him for very long because Johnny's job depends on wins and Simmons is his best player. Now SL thinks Simmons is a Tiger because he comes here for one and a half semesters because the rules say he can't go straight to the pros. Okay if that floats your boat, fine.
The sports media is an even bigger joke. There are so many channels now and sports talking heads that they have to find something to hype and then to create controversy. Football season it was Les Miles. Basketball it is Simmons and CJJ. I think there has been more hype about Simmons then any other player I can ever remember. Naturally that hasn't been good for team chemistry.
The rest of the team have even been accused by the sportscaster's of keeping Simmons out of the tournament because they just aren't good enough. Even if one of the other players plays well and is the leading scorer all they talk about is Simmons. It is always his highlights they show. Even when he has a bad game which he has had several of including the last one.
So support who you want, trash who you want. Big whoop! There are a lot more important things in life.
Every fan in the SEC also express opinions about their players, pro or con. That's what fans do. Some feel it is their duty to only say glowing positive things about the players and other's are ready to trash them for one mistake.
I for one am getting disgusted with the whole college sports thing. It has become a parody of itself. CJJ benches Simmons for some "academic infraction", probably for not going to class. Simmons apparently gets pissed off because he and everyone else knows he is not going to be here after the end of basketball season so why should he have to go to class.
Of course he doesn't bench him for very long because Johnny's job depends on wins and Simmons is his best player. Now SL thinks Simmons is a Tiger because he comes here for one and a half semesters because the rules say he can't go straight to the pros. Okay if that floats your boat, fine.
The sports media is an even bigger joke. There are so many channels now and sports talking heads that they have to find something to hype and then to create controversy. Football season it was Les Miles. Basketball it is Simmons and CJJ. I think there has been more hype about Simmons then any other player I can ever remember. Naturally that hasn't been good for team chemistry.
The rest of the team have even been accused by the sportscaster's of keeping Simmons out of the tournament because they just aren't good enough. Even if one of the other players plays well and is the leading scorer all they talk about is Simmons. It is always his highlights they show. Even when he has a bad game which he has had several of including the last one.
So support who you want, trash who you want. Big whoop! There are a lot more important things in life.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 5:51 pm to SL Tiger
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Your comments actually made me reflect on all of the good that he did for LSU and I do believe that he is HOF worthy.
There were lots of things about the 1990 season to discuss. The few things I would point out are:
1. Lots of teams in the 80's era had multiple future NBA stars. Georgia Tech had 3. North Carolina played multiple years with Jordan,Perkins, and Worthy. Houston and Hakeem and company...UNLV was a future nba team with Augmon and Johnson....Georgetown was flat out loaded for years. LSU was not the first team to lose with studs. Furthermore, ours only played together 1 season.
2. Shaq was a force , but he wasn't nearly the player in 1990 as he would become over the next 2 years. He spent the whole season in foul trouble.
3. Roberts was a great talent with a super touch. Unfortunately, he played the whole year 30 pounds over weight. Dale benched him because of it.
3. Jackson was flat out one of the best scorers i've ever seen. Unfortunately, he had trouble all season with his medication to control his illness.
4. Jackson was forced to play a lot of point instead of the 2 guard. Randy Duvall was a very average point. It would have been nice to have a senior Fess Irvin at point, but our fans ran him off for missing the free throw in 87 against Indiana.
That season could have ended with a better run, but it was only 1 season over a 25 year career for Dale. I would counter the 1990 season with the success of the talented 1981 team.
The run in 1986 and 87 were things of beauty. 1979 and 1980 were damn good as well. Jones will never come close to this amount of success...and I really doubt anyone else in our lifetime will either at LSU.
We simply do not commit the resources to basketball to do it. We didn't do it during the Brown era either. That's what makes Brown's tenure a HOF one.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:07 pm to Ignignot
Sad thing is He aint even going to class cause He know this is a Semi Pro stint. He is a slasher and excellent passer. He cannot SHOOT and He is scared to death to shoot anything outside of the lane. JJ is at fault too cause He aint developing Ben at all. Its a crying shame.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:15 pm to SL Tiger
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Having balls while you're hiding behind a computer doesn't make you a badass. It makes you a pussy.
1) I didn't claim to be a BadAss
2) By u calling me a pussy behind a computer, you made yourself a hypocrite.
Enjoy the rest of your Sunday
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:16 pm to LSU92
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There were lots of things about the 1990 season to discuss. The few things I would point out are:
Were you at that game? It was the best I've ever seen. I was thinking about what that team would have looked like if you swapped Ben Simmons for Stanley. I always felt that we had a weakness with both SR & SO in the game as we could be beaten in transition and 3's. Ben would have been awesome on that team but it would have been a challenge to control 3 lottery picks. That's exactly what Dale had to do because SR went lower than his talent at ~25.
Who would have won between that LSU team (with Simmons) and last years UK team?
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:25 pm to SL Tiger
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I always felt that we had a weakness with both SR & SO in the game as we could be beaten in transition and 3's
Funny you say this....You must have watched the Loyola Marymount game that year
The 1990 team also went to war and beat the eventual champion UNLV team that year. The 1990 team could go small because Singleton was a very good and underrated player. Williamson could also run like a bandit. Like most young teams , the 1990 team played up and down to the competition. Yes, they could have taken down Kentucky because Shaq would have been the only guy with the ability to stop Towns in the paint. That said, Shaq may have also picked up two cheap fouls in the first 8 minutes. Also, Jackson could literally shoot the nets down on any given night.
Simmons would have been a beast feeding it to those guys.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:30 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
I 100% agree with your point of 1 year players and the damn NBA. It is ridiculous the amount of damage the NBA has done to college basketball.
It is a bad product. The players are oberrated in most cases and that includes Ben Simmons.
It is a bad product. The players are oberrated in most cases and that includes Ben Simmons.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:33 pm to LSU92
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The run in 1986 and 87
I agree. The 86 run Ricky Blanton at center was Dale's best coaching job. If you put Blanton on this years team, I suspect that our record would be much different. He was the type of player who could change the outcome of a game without the stats. That's exactly what this team is missing.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:41 pm to SL Tiger
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Ben Simmons is an LSU Tiger
LSU is a university with sports teams, not sports teams with a university. Simmons doesn't give a frick about the university aspect, so...
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