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Avid Miles Supporters - Did we finish the season without having a backup QB?

Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:30 am
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3705 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:30 am
A lot of you are saying that Lee must have done something to prevent Miles from playing him. This is your defense when people question Miles' decision not to play Lee in the last few games. If that was the case then why wasn't one of the other QB's on the roster prepared as the backup QB? So that that leaves us with two possible scenarios for what occurred.

1) Miles is stubborn and was going to play JJ no matter what happened win or lose. This means Lee was crapped all over and seriously disrespected in spite of him taking the high road throughout this whole process. This makes Miles a douchebag.

2)Lee did something negative that made Miles decide he wasn't going to play him going further no matter what. This means that we finished the season without a backup QB. If you knew that you were not going to play Lee under any circumstance wouldn't you prepare one of the other QB's on the roster as your backup? This makes Miles a dumbass for not having a backup QB.

So which scenario do the avid Miles supporters go with?
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
24333 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:31 am to
sounds like the game was fixed to me.
Posted by Deep Fried
Kingwood
Member since Oct 2009
144 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:31 am to
quote:

1) Miles is stubborn and was going to play JJ no matter what happened win or lose. This means Lee was crapped all over and seriously disrespected in spite of him taking the high road throughout this whole process. This makes Miles a douchebag.


this
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:32 am to
i think Miles should've played Lee and don't really understand why he didn't

with that said....i'm not going to demand answers and go into hysterics over it. its over....we'll beat USC in the NC game next season.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22506 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:33 am to
I think they both were subpar qbs in the sec and neither of them were good enough to go against Bama on Mon. JJ could at least move around before getting blown up and Lee would have been a sitting duck. Either way, the outcome would have been the same.
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3058 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:34 am to
To brucevilanch, go to your own site and stay off of Tiger Droppings.
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3705 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:42 am to
There must not be any avid Miles supporters left to defend his actions.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 9:44 am
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33893 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:45 am to
quote:

i think Miles should've played Lee and don't really understand why he didn't

with that said....i'm not going to demand answers and go into hysterics over it. its over....we'll beat USC in the NC game next season.


:KIGE:
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:47 am to
Or Miles thought Jefferson gave him the best chance to win. But Let's all go crazy and call Miles a dumbass and douchebag.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:50 am to
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Or Miles thought Jefferson gave him the best chance to win. But Let's all go crazy and call Miles a dumbass and douchebag.


If Miles didn't realize by halftime that JJ wasn't the best chance to win, you can call him whatever you want and you would be correct. Hell, he should have known after the UGA game.
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:15 am to
quote:

A lot of you are saying that Lee must have done something to prevent Miles from playing him. This is your defense when people question Miles' decision not to play Lee in the last few games. If that was the case then why wasn't one of the other QB's on the roster prepared as the backup QB? So that that leaves us with two possible scenarios for what occurred.

1) Miles is stubborn and was going to play JJ no matter what happened win or lose. This means Lee was crapped all over and seriously disrespected in spite of him taking the high road throughout this whole process. This makes Miles a douchebag.

2)Lee did something negative that made Miles decide he wasn't going to play him going further no matter what. This means that we finished the season without a backup QB. If you knew that you were not going to play Lee under any circumstance wouldn't you prepare one of the other QB's on the roster as your backup? This makes Miles a dumbass for not having a backup QB.

So which scenario do the avid Miles supporters go with?
It's a false dichotomy. There are, of course, more alternatives. Miles intended to play Lee; however, given the game situation and the Bama pass rush, he changed his mind because he thought that Jefferson would give LSU the better chance to win.



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There must not be any avid Miles supporters left to defend his actions.
At least your consistent with your false dichotomies. It could be that avid Miles supporters choose to ignore false dichotomies.



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If Miles didn't realize by halftime that JJ wasn't the best chance to win, you can call him whatever you want and you would be correct. Hell, he should have known after the UGA game.
Georgia and Alabama are the only top ten defenses LSU played in games this year. Lee did not fare well at all when he played a top ten defense.

Of course, the LSU offense goes against a top ten defense everyday in practice.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7220 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:22 am to
I was a miles supporter and still am. Do I think Lee should have played? Yes. Do I think it would have made a difference? No, unless the play calling was different.

Other than Saban, most people that hate miles can't come up with a better replacement. The fact is that he still recruits great and there are no better options. If you remove the NC game, I bet 99 percent of people would have loved miles and wanted to keep him. You don't all of a sudden become a terrible coach when you have a bad game.
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3705 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:37 am to
quote:

There are, of course, more alternatives. Miles intended to play Lee; however, given the game situation and the Bama pass rush, he changed his mind because he thought that Jefferson would give LSU the better chance to win.



Jordan Jefferson was sacked 14 times in 100 pass attempts this season. He took a sack on 14% of his pass attempts.

Jarrett Lee was sacked 4 times in 167 pass attempts this season. He took a sack on 2.4% of his pass attempts.

Jordan Jefferson has 2 interceptions in 100 pass attempts. He throws an interception on 2% of his pass attempts.

Jarrett Lee has 3 interceptions on 167 pass attempts. He throws an interception on 1.8% of his pass attempts.

That means that Jordan Jefferson either throws an interception or gets sacked every 6.25 pass attempts

That means that Jarrett Lee either throws an interception or gets sacked every 23.8 pass attempts

Jefferson is obviously the better choice to handle the pass rush.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81627 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:41 am to
quote:

There are, of course, more alternatives. Miles intended to play Lee; however, given the game situation and the Bama pass rush, he changed his mind because he thought that Jefferson would give LSU the better chance to win.
There's no way that's a possibility. It would have been difficult for the starter to have failed worse than he did.
Posted by golf teaching pro
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
604 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:41 am to
I can think of lots of coaches who would do a far better job than miles. He gets all this credit for recruiting. He will never ever out recruit Saban and with the program we currently have its not that difficult to recruit. No instate competition, top 5 program, great facilities. People give less all this credit. Does he really deserve it ? I think he is overrated and overpayed. He should have never been elevated above a tight ends coach that's all he can handle
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117700 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:43 am to
Gruden is the answer.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 10:44 am
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:47 am to
I'm amazed at how many fans think Lee would have won the NC for us. It's the ultimate in Monday Morning Quarterbacking.

And for the record, yes, I wish Lee would have been put in just to see what would happen. The simple fact which no one wants to accept is Bama had more motivation to win a 2nd game. It all comes back to that. It showed on both teams Bama wanted it more.
Posted by tlary
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Oct 2009
118 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Miles intended to play Lee; however, given the game situation and the Bama pass rush, he changed his mind because he thought that Jefferson would give LSU the better chance to win.


What made it a great defensive perfromance? Our offensive scheme. Answer this, if there is no threat from a team to throw te ball down the field, what is a good D.C. going to do? Load the box. Bama played with 9 in the box the entire game. LSU threw downfiled 3 times- 1 caught and 2 bad passes. All three times the receiver was open.
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:55 am to
quote:

quote:

There are, of course, more alternatives. Miles intended to play Lee; however, given the game situation and the Bama pass rush, he changed his mind because he thought that Jefferson would give LSU the better chance to win.
There's no way that's a possibility. It would have been difficult for the starter to have failed worse than he did.
Try to remember November 5th. The starter of that game failed worse than Jefferson did.

That was the alternative for Miles.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:56 am to
quote:

He will never ever out recruit Saban and with the program we currently have its not that difficult to recruit.


he already did. and the difference between the top 8 or so recruiting classes is extremely small....but i wouldn't expect you to understand that.

quote:

I think he is overrated and overpayed. He should have never been elevated above a tight ends coach that's all he can handle


he just went 13-0 in the SEC and has lost 3 games the last 2 years. you just make yourself look stupid when you post shite like this
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 10:58 am
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