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re: Attrition under Miles at the OL position via injuries or transfers...

Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:19 am to
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:19 am to
I want to see OL come in, get developed, and have more than 1 per season under Miles be draft eligible..

..even if the guy is a career backup. It would show that we have some depth year in and year out.

This post was edited on 8/28/13 at 11:22 am
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25097 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:24 am to
I'd rather just lead the SEC in rushing and yards per carry and rushing touchdowns. If they get drafted, great. If not, that's a shame, but I'm not losing sleep over it.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
4911 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:27 am to
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Do you feel our OL attrition and injuries are common throughout CFB?


No, I feel that in spite of our ol attrition and injuries, that there are maybe two to three teams that can say they do it better. Bama being one of those but I'm not sure who else.

Attrition and injuries have been horrible for the past eight years, but like I said before its amazing what we have been able to do with such a bare cupboard.

I don't like bringing up Texas again, but they are the example of what happens when your oline really goes to shite, and in my mind they are a top ten program based on thier resources and money made. When you don't have good oline guys you lose a lot of games, even in a crappier conference.

Texas works a bigger more fertile recruiting ground then lsu, however have not had a oline guy drafted in something like six years. Obviously the state of Texas has produced some draft able oline guys in the past six years. But Texas has missed on the ones they have taken. So they went from a ten win season every year to the shitter because they have not gotten good oline guys.

Therefore, I am lead to believe that what miles has done with the limited guys he has been able to keep on the field is remarkable.

This post was edited on 8/28/13 at 11:30 am
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:32 am to
the same thing happened to georgia 8-10 yrs ago. snakebit. maybe the practices contain too much contact but i doubt it. since the OL fields 5 guys you can expect more attrition than say the CB spot that fields 2 guys but LSU has had some rotton luck. hopefully, it will recycle and we'll have some good luck.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18668 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:32 am to
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Attrition and injuries have been horrible for the past eight years, but like I said before its amazing what we have been able to do with such a bare cupboard.


Are they worse than they have ever been? How does it actually compare across all of football? Have you just now started playing closer attention to this type if thing?

Injuries and attrition are a major part of college football.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
1908 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:33 am to
You are comparing apples to oranges.

Here's what you need to do to make useful comparisons between us and any other school (including Bama).

1. List all offensive line signees with ratings for the desired time period up to the 2010 HS class. (anyone since then has not been draft eligible, so using them in the metric adds unnecessary confusion)

2. For each lineman, list the number of years they started the majority of games, were a regular backup, were injured or stayed before transferring.

3. For each lineman, list whether and where they were drafted.

Without all of this information, you really can't say whether Miles is doing a better job than anybody.

Pushing the fact that Bama had three highly drafted linemen last year without such context completely ignores that Hurst & Faulk (and maybe even Williford) could have easily been drafted high had they finished last season,(when the line attrition was devastating, but it still wasn't why we lost to Bama).

Now, if you want to demonstrate some deficiency in Miles & Stud's instruction that causes our linemen to get injured, fine but you better have your facts straight.

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