re: Are LSU Fans Beginning To Feel Differently About Saban?

The reality is that we won't be happy until we have another coach of Saban's caliber and intensity.

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I don't think LSU fans are giving Miles enough credit. He won the BCS 3 years after Saban left. Saban won the BCS at Bama 3 years after Mike Shula was fired. I don't hear anyone saying that Saban won the BCS with Shula's players. Seems like a double standard to give Saban so much credit for LSU's BCS championship in '07.

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You gonna tell me with a straight face, Mike Shula would have coached Bama to a MNC in 2009? Nick Saban won with SOME of Shulas players. Mark Ingram, Julio Jones, Trent Richardson, Terrace Cody, Rolando McClain, Marcel Dareus, Mark Barron, Kareem Jackson and half the O-line. Not Shula players.

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The reality is that we won't be happy until we have another coach of Saban's caliber and intensity.

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This.

People don't understand that when we say we'd take Saban back in a heartbeat, that's with the understanding that it would probably never happen. But if we were to get somebody that's even somewhat close to his style and can speak straight up and back up his speech with action, well then LSU fans would absolutely embrace that coach with open arms.

Even if Miles were to win an SEC and/or National Championship, I will never feel the same about him again and will wish he'd just leave.

I can spot a bullshitter a mile away, and he is definitely a bullshitter. And I have no patience for people like that.

Say what ya'll want.Saban is by far the best out their..

Not a nice man,

I hate his fricking guts feel different frick no, the time will come when we get the team we had back LSU can get the recruits, wether its Miles or not remains to be scene, but I hate him and the damn arrogance to Alabama just go to the SEC rant and see.

Godfather1,

I respect your opinion on this matter and generally agree. However, I would offer this perspective.

You are correct, most people will change jobs for an increase in pay. However, for most working folks who spend their hard earned dollars supporting LSU athletics in general and LSU football specifically, changing a job for an increase in pay from, say, maybe $60,000/year to, let's say, $100,000 per year is a definite lifestyle change.

However, a pay increase from $2 million per year and to say $4 million per year is not a lifestyle change for the recipient, it's certainly means there is more money in the bank for ones great-grandchildren, though.

I am now a partner in a business in a profession in which I was once an employee. I compete with a former employer who I respect and admire. While he paid me for my services and he made money off of the work I performed (at this point,some might say we're even), I do not seek or perform work in my current business from clients of my former employer as I believe I do owe him the respect for having not only paid me, but for giving me the opportunity to perform my profession.

Here in lies what I believe is the crux of this situation for most LSU fans. I believe that most LSU fans are grateful for what Coach Saban accomplished at LSU. And I believe most fans have no issues with his professional desire to coach at the next level. However, most LSU fans truly don't hate THAT he left, but rather HOW he left. He lacked the character to stand before the fans in Baton Rouge and explain his desire to coach in the NFL nor was there much gratitude shown for what LSU did for him (and yes, I whole heartedly believe that LSU and Louisiana athletes did as much to create the Saban aura as Saban did in building the program).

Then, I don't necessarily agree, but a lot of fans believe there was a huge disrespect shown by returning to, not only the SEC, but to a divisional rival. He most certainly could have shown respect by being loyal to the commitment he made to the Dolphin franchise and it's owner (where, by the way, he was making a tremendous amount of money) by waiting an additional year when he could have gone to another high profile university. In other words, the Alabama job nor the associated salary was not a lifestyle change for Coach Saban. Couple this with the fact that he made his grand debut into Tuscaloosa on the very day LSU was playing in the Sugar bowl and then was announced as the new Alabama Head Coach at the first home basketball game, which, by the way, was against LSU all adds to a series of disrespectful acts by a seemingly ungrateful individual who was once revered by many people in the State of Louisiana.

Anyway, just my observation.

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we will see Saban as the Paul Dietzel of this era

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Nailed every woman that he could?

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and Miles as the Charley Mac

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Won 70% of his games over a long career?

=1000

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Godfather1,

I respect your opinion on this matter and generally agree. However, I would offer this perspective.

You are correct, most people will change jobs for an increase in pay. However, for most working folks who spend their hard earned dollars supporting LSU athletics in general and LSU football specifically, changing a job for an increase in pay from, say, maybe $60,000/year to, let's say, $100,000 per year is a definite lifestyle change.

However, a pay increase from $2 million per year and to say $4 million per year is not a lifestyle change for the recipient, it's certainly means there is more money in the bank for ones great-grandchildren, though.

I am now a partner in a business in a profession in which I was once an employee. I compete with a former employer who I respect and admire. While he paid me for my services and he made money off of the work I performed (at this point,some might say we're even), I do not seek or perform work in my current business from clients of my former employer as I believe I do owe him the respect for having not only paid me, but for giving me the opportunity to perform my profession.

Here in lies what I believe is the crux of this situation for most LSU fans. I believe that most LSU fans are grateful for what Coach Saban accomplished at LSU. And I believe most fans have no issues with his professional desire to coach at the next level. However, most LSU fans truly don't hate THAT he left, but rather HOW he left. He lacked the character to stand before the fans in Baton Rouge and explain his desire to coach in the NFL nor was there much gratitude shown for what LSU did for him (and yes, I whole heartedly believe that LSU and Louisiana athletes did as much to create the Saban aura as Saban did in building the program).

Then, I don't necessarily agree, but a lot of fans believe there was a huge disrespect shown by returning to, not only the SEC, but to a divisional rival. He most certainly could have shown respect by being loyal to the commitment he made to the Dolphin franchise and it's owner (where, by the way, he was making a tremendous amount of money) by waiting an additional year when he could have gone to another high profile university. In other words, the Alabama job nor the associated salary was not a lifestyle change for Coach Saban. Couple this with the fact that he made his grand debut into Tuscaloosa on the very day LSU was playing in the Sugar bowl and then was announced as the new Alabama Head Coach at the first home basketball game, which, by the way, was against LSU all adds to a series of disrespectful acts by a seemingly ungrateful individual who was once revered by many people in the State of Louisiana.

Anyway, just my observation.

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A well-thought out post with honest observations and no self-serving, revisionist history.

Rare as hen's teeth on the Rant.