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re: Anyone who thinks that Wisconsin had no shot in this game
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:05 am to epbart
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:05 am to epbart
Omg this again?? Once again it has nothing to do with a lose, it's the way we lose ALL these games. If we had never played a game in this way this game would be fine by me. That's not the case hell even our wins are sloppy. Man people forget the past way to fast, I see why politics is so popular these days lol
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:05 am to Mo Jeaux
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had we barely won, the Miles loyalists would still happily be in there bubble and believe all is well.
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This. It's infuriating.
It really is.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:05 am to nicholastiger
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I'm not ready to write the entire season off because of the home opener
I am.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:06 am to nicholastiger
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I'm not ready to write the entire season off because of the home opener
The game was played in Wisconsin.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:10 am to SabiDojo
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Top to bottom, LSU is supposed to be the better team. And we fricking suck. Again.
understatement of the year.
Wisconsin had around 7 - 4 star players on the roster (no 5 stars).
LSU had 52 - 4 stars and 8 5 stars.
7.. to 60.. 60!!!! We could've fielded nearly 3 full teams of 4 and 5 star players. They could field half of a single unit.
People saying that Wisconsin had no shot in this game were about as right as people saying that Ohio State would have no shot against the Denver Broncos..
Unless of course Miles was coaching the Broncos.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:12 am to sjmabry
Well I've been all over that for a while now.
We agree there, but unlike you I think all this unhappiness with the fans is going to stick bc of the different circumstances as in the veteran team we now have. Lots of people gave Les this one year with this All American type team thinking it would turn around but F it gets worse he's out of here. Even if it's equal he's gone. We have to at least offer Herman the job to see what happens. If we get him I think he'll be worth every penny and more. I mean this is our guy, he's exactly what we need here. Go get him asap
We agree there, but unlike you I think all this unhappiness with the fans is going to stick bc of the different circumstances as in the veteran team we now have. Lots of people gave Les this one year with this All American type team thinking it would turn around but F it gets worse he's out of here. Even if it's equal he's gone. We have to at least offer Herman the job to see what happens. If we get him I think he'll be worth every penny and more. I mean this is our guy, he's exactly what we need here. Go get him asap
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:12 am to tiggerthetooth
Miles in several interviews after last season said that the "offense was not broken" when asked would there be changes to it during the off season. HE does not think there is a problem. Apparently he does not think there is a problem with ST, as it is just as bad again this year. Miles is NOT going to change what HE perseveres to be not broken! And you saw it on the field!
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:16 am to BayouBengal99
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Omg this again?? Once again it has nothing to do with a lose, it's the way we lose ALL these games. If we had never played a game in this way this game would be fine by me. That's not the case hell even our wins are sloppy. Man people forget the past way to fast, I see why politics is so popular these days lol
I assume this is directed at me. Not sure why. I said:
1) The offense was inept and can't start that slow all the time and expect to contend for anything.
and,
2) Miles can't say he's changing, then make the team half practice a changed offense, and trot out the old one. The result is that the offense won't be able to run either style well.
I think you want to agree with this, but your small mind maybe can't get past the comment that Wisconsin is an above average team most years. They only suck if you take an elitist view that only about 5-10 teams a year don't suck. If you look at the big picture, they're above average most of the time. This year, who knows. This argument does not take away from the fact that LSU's offense is operating below average.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:17 am to tgerb8
Only gross incompetence can explain what we saw on Saturday.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:20 am to nicholastiger
At first I thought wish would win, then I was like, nah, Les will run it down their throat. I was wrong.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:21 am to nicholastiger
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Unfortunately every bad play is going to show just how embarrassing the LSU fanbase can be at home in front of recruits.
I think even recruits realize at this point that everyone is tired of seeing the offense shite the bed. It's pretty well known at this point and is discussed ad nauseum on major sports news outlets. I'd like to think most would understand the frustrations at this point.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:40 am to nicholastiger
People forget that Wisconsin had what many " experts" said was one of the top 4 or 5 LB corps in the country. At the end of 2015 Wisconsin had the #1 defense in the country with teams averaging just 13.1 points against them.
Leaving out the loss to Bama at the beginning of the 2015 season, 12 points separated Wisconsin from the BIG 10 Championship game in which they had a real shot to beat Michigan State.
This was a quality team that LSU lost to on Saturday. A team that can go toe to toe against the best teams in the country. A defense that can make any offense it plays against look damned foolish.
Of course as SEC people we believe that teams from the Big 10 are inferior. The truth is Wisconsin routinely makes teams they play look bad offensively and just think, LSU has the architect of that defense.
Leaving out the loss to Bama at the beginning of the 2015 season, 12 points separated Wisconsin from the BIG 10 Championship game in which they had a real shot to beat Michigan State.
This was a quality team that LSU lost to on Saturday. A team that can go toe to toe against the best teams in the country. A defense that can make any offense it plays against look damned foolish.
Of course as SEC people we believe that teams from the Big 10 are inferior. The truth is Wisconsin routinely makes teams they play look bad offensively and just think, LSU has the architect of that defense.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:44 am to SOL
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We had this game won with a 45 yrd FG.
That INT was just inexcusable. I would not start him next game. Give the other guys a chance. Harris is not it for anumber of reasons. I would play 3 QBs in the next game.
If Les or Cam does not solve the problems of the LT position, that int is bound to happen again. It's not entirely a QB problem
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 11:48 am
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:48 am to cas4t
Wisconsin's end of season AP Ranking for the past few years:
2015 – 21st
2014 – 18th
2013 – 22nd
2012 – NR (Lost a bowl game against #6 Stanford 20-14 after winning the BIG Champ game)
2011 – 10th
2010 – 7th
2009 – 16th
2008 – NR
2007 – 24th
2006 – 7th
2005 – 15th
2004 – 17th
If you think Wisconsin isn't a perennial top 20 team then what are they?
2015 – 21st
2014 – 18th
2013 – 22nd
2012 – NR (Lost a bowl game against #6 Stanford 20-14 after winning the BIG Champ game)
2011 – 10th
2010 – 7th
2009 – 16th
2008 – NR
2007 – 24th
2006 – 7th
2005 – 15th
2004 – 17th
If you think Wisconsin isn't a perennial top 20 team then what are they?
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:52 am to OhLord
Not top 20 since 2011 and they aren't good this year. If they were supposed to be good this year and we just flat out got beat then ok. But when we come out and look like mental midgets. No
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:52 am to KiwiHead
Since Barry won the Rose Bowl in 1993, Wisconsin is 8th natonally in wins. That's 23 years of top 8 wins.
Last 10 years? 8th also.
In the last 5 years? 11th. Wisconsin is now 61-21. LSU is 61-18.
Bucky is not LSU. But Bucky is no slouch.
Last 10 years? 8th also.
In the last 5 years? 11th. Wisconsin is now 61-21. LSU is 61-18.
Bucky is not LSU. But Bucky is no slouch.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:54 am to KiwiHead
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This was a quality team that LSU lost to on Saturday. A team that can go toe to toe against the best teams in the country. A defense that can make any offense it plays against look damned foolish.
Of course as SEC people we believe that teams from the Big 10 are inferior. The truth is Wisconsin routinely makes teams they play look bad offensively and just think, LSU has the architect of that defense.
No one disputes that.
It's the style of play calling, the way the first half ended with poor clock management AGAIN .
How they continuously trot out the same tired and overly - failed lineup of I-Formation shite that has never seemed to be effective.
Just like against Bama seemingly every year now. No one disputes Bama is a good team, but that doesn't mean the play calling was good or effective.
Listen, this problem that LSU has on offense is like having foundation problems at your house. You can't just fix a few things and expect it to workout. You have to pack your shite, and move out because the repairs are going to be that extensive.
What we've done up to this point, using the same analogy, is we've tried to spot fix, but the spot fixing is not correcting the problem, so it must be a deeper problem.
Also, this game just confirmed every criticism of miles there's ever been. The frustration is a boil over from last season because frankly, most people probably wanted him gone.
He's done, just a matter of how long it'll take for it to happen.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:54 am to KiwiHead
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People forget that Wisconsin had what many " experts" said was one of the top 4 or 5 LB corps in the country. At the end of 2015 Wisconsin had the #1 defense in the country with teams averaging just 13.1 points against them.
Leaving out the loss to Bama at the beginning of the 2015 season, 12 points separated Wisconsin from the BIG 10 Championship game in which they had a real shot to beat Michigan State.
This was a quality team that LSU lost to on Saturday. A team that can go toe to toe against the best teams in the country. A defense that can make any offense it plays against look damned foolish.
Of course as SEC people we believe that teams from the Big 10 are inferior. The truth is Wisconsin routinely makes teams they play look bad offensively and just think, LSU has the architect of that defense.
You continue to rationalize the loss as much as you want. The facts are we have one of the highest paid coaching staffs in the country and a load of returning talent, that loss and how you looked in that loss are unacceptable.
The fact that you think its OK to get throttled by a team like that is the troubling part.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:54 am to CajunFrank
last time I checked 18 is below 20.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:56 am to ChunkyLover54
I think y'all have valid arguments about Les Miles' ineptitude at coaching, Harris' lack of play recognition and the uninspired play.
But Wisconsin won the B1G championship three years in a row from 2010-2012. Also, they are Top 10 in wins within the last 10 years. Look it up. I'll let y'all put the loss on LSU and not on Wisconsin, but don't sit here and say things that just aren't true.
But Wisconsin won the B1G championship three years in a row from 2010-2012. Also, they are Top 10 in wins within the last 10 years. Look it up. I'll let y'all put the loss on LSU and not on Wisconsin, but don't sit here and say things that just aren't true.
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LSU should never lose this game. Wisconsin is middle of road Big10 team
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 12:01 pm
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