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re: Alleva haters have been quiet the past several weeks

Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:28 am to
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56011 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:28 am to
Alleva get's credit for a team doing well when he only hires the coach?

Alleva got blame because of the terrible handling of the Chavis situation, which maybe he didn't have as much control over than we thought.

Note: CPM is a Skip hire
Johnny Jones while his team may make the tourney has really underperformed this year
Football is coming off a 5 loss season.

So while our sports have been playing well, can't say that Alleva is responsible for the success.
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 8:30 am
Posted by Iam4LSUnTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Dec 2011
627 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:45 am to
You Aleva haters...bet you never even met the man. Amazes me how people attempt to tear down an honorable man with stupid baseless remarks cloaked behind a fake name on a website. He's not perfect, yet has done countless good for this University and our sports teams.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29227 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:46 am to
Alleva is building an actual powerhouse athletic program. someone noted earlier that "let's win trophies before we praise him" or something to that affect. Well, over 80% of LSU's national titles are in track and baseball. Skip let Henry walk out the door, and while Shaver has done a respectable ob, he's obviously not Henry. No one is equal other than maybe Oregon or Florida's coaches


What he's doing is updating facilities so LSU can actually be an all-around great athletic program. Gymnastics ust signed the top ranked class. don't you think the new gymnastics facility has a lot to do with that? Giving DD the finances to land Jay Clark was pretty huge too.

He fired Yvette and hired the hottest name in softball. We're now a national title contender as long as she's here. I expect a few titles with Torina leading the program

he's updated the golf facilities, and both teams are in the top 10. the guys ust landed the #1 recruiting class. don't you think LSU's newfound commitment to mid-major facilities is reaping benefits?

Point being: LSU has never exactly been Florida or Georgia like athletic program. We've always been great at football, baseball, and track, followed by the occasional good run in other sports

Regardless of not hiring Maineri and Miles, he's given them a ton of autonomy and a huge budget. there's not much more he can do on that end. He can't just fire Maineri for his recent struggles in Omaha, nor can he fire Miles for an 8-5 season. most legendary coaches have had down years during their tenures. there's more parity than ever, so it happens. I think Les is a really good coach with glaring flaws, but we'd be the talk of sports for firing him with his record and reputation

Did he mess up on Trent Johnson? Sure. Is the jury still out on Jones? Yes, but we're getting better each and every year. But Foley has botched a shitload of hires during his time at Florida. Long has made bad hires at Arkansas. It's just part of the business
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 9:19 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:53 am to
quote:

Alleva is building an actual powerhouse athletic program. someone noted earlier that "let's win trophies before we praise him" or something to that affect. Well, over 80% of LSU's national titles are in track and baseball. Skip let Henry walk out the door, and while Shaver has done a respectable ob, he's obviously not Henry. No one is equal other than maybe Oregon or Florida's coaches


What he's doing is updating facilities so LSU can actually be an all-around great athletic program. Gymnastics ust signed the top ranked class. don't you think the new gymnastics facility has a lot to do with that? Giving DD the finances to land Jay Clark was pretty huge too.

He fired Yvette and hired the hottest name in softball. We're now a national title contender as long as she's here. I expect a few titles with Torina leading the program

he's updated the golf facilities, and both teams are in the top 10. the guys ust landed the #1 recruiting class. don't you think LSU's newfound commitment to mid-major facilities is reaping benefits?

Point being: LSU has never exactly been Florida or Georgia like athletic program. We've always been great at football, baseball, and track, followed by the occasional good run in other sports

Regardless of not hiring Maineri and Miles, he's given them a ton of autonomy and a huge budget. there's not much more he can do on that end.

Did he mess up on Trent Johnson? Sure. Is the jury still out on Jones? Yes, but we're getting better each and every year. But Foley has botched a shitload of hires during his time at Florida. Long has made bad hires at Arkansas. It's just part of the business



Excellent post.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:54 am to
Yes
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29227 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:55 am to
I also want to follow-up again on the first page comment about Alleva's loyalty. Yall do realize he's only paid 525k a year? That's incredibly low for an athletic director of a major college. For example, Jurich makes 1.6. Long makes 1.3.

If any of you were hypothetically the school's AD, and Penn State and Tennessee approached you with a substantial pay raise, would you honestly tell them "No thank. I bleed purple and gold. My loyalty to LSU even after everyone shits on me doesn't have a price tag."? any of you chodes would pack your bags IMMEDIATELY and thank LSU for the good times. Money talks, my e-friends.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56011 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:10 am to
This board has a tendency to be either you are for a coach and nothing he does is wrong or you are against him and everything he does is wrong.

I'm in the middle with most coaches and alleva. All im saying is that don't put all you eggs in his Basket because of a small run of our teams. Alleva still has his issues.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68656 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:17 am to
I still don't like the guy. I know its duke, but he held onto a football coach that won like a total of 3 games. There was the lax fiasco, then he backed his buddy the baseball coach after being caught giving his players steroids, and he was on a boat with his son drinking and his son was arrested for a DUI operating a boat. This dude came with a lot of baggage. I think he's done a decent job, but I still think he is a turd and hope he's not here when we have to hire a new fb coach.
Posted by CreoleGumbo
Faubourg Bayou St. John
Member since Sep 2003
1829 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:43 am to
Fire Alleva Camp Counselor
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66558 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:46 am to
I mean we are going to be the sacrificial lamb for this finical aid violation rule, and he doesn't seem to be fighting that
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29227 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:47 am to
quote:

This board has a tendency to be either you are for a coach and nothing he does is wrong or you are against him and everything he does is wrong.



Exactly. My point of having rebuttals for most of this thread isn't to convince people he's the best AD in the country. The problem is that most LSU fans have an irrational hatred of Alleva because "he doesn't understand us", "He's not loyal to LSU", "We need an AD that can bully the rest of the conference into LSU's wants and needs", and other shite like that. it's ridiculous, and I can see why other schools laugh at the collective iq of our fanbase. it's pathetic.


quote:

I'm in the middle with most coaches and alleva. All im saying is that don't put all you eggs in his Basket because of a small run of our teams. Alleva still has his issues.



I agree, but in the big picture, LSU is positioned to win championships and accomplish some big things over the next few years. It takes time and patience, and this spring is showing the masterplan of actually investing in other sports is paying off.

The quicker people understand that no AD can tell ESPN and CBS what games to televise, and the fact that ticket prices are raising all across the country, the better off the program morale will be
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 7:16 pm to
Fans feeling remorse thinking about Hawthorne's retirement.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
AL
Member since Apr 2010
27652 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:30 pm to
Yes to everything you said
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:52 pm to
Fire his arse! Good enough for ya!
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7674 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

He fired Yvette and hired the hottest name in softball. We're now a national title contender as long as she's here. I expect a few titles with Torina leading the program


??? I thought Yvette was ready for retirement.
then he hired the Alabama guy, who backed out.
then he hired torina.

just askin', but why think Yvette fired? b/c of her hitting coach?
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 11:23 pm to
Haven't read the whole thread, but the value of seeing LSU mentioned throughout the year in a positive manner can not be understated.

Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9344 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 5:46 am to
Tigerbait2010,

Do not expect logic and reason here.!
Posted by Shamalamadingdong
Member since Mar 2015
188 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 7:14 am to
quote:

That comes from a good friend of mine who works in the AD's office at another SEC school. You can choose to believe me or not. Doesn't matter to me.


My cock hangs below my knee. You can chose to believe me or not. Doesn't matter to me.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40138 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:19 am to
quote:

Only issues are how he bends over for the SEC office when he needs to stand up for us a little more


He was never gonna change the permanent opponent scheduling. OM & Vandy, UT and the Gumps, AU and UGA all like it the way it is. MSU and UK also like it so the votes aren't there. I hate it, but it was just not realistically possible, but he was able to spin it and get more night home SEC games.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/10/15 at 9:24 am to
That has nothing to do with the bridge scheduling and Thanksgiving game

quote:

, but he was able to spin it and get more night home SEC games. 


Has to do with the switch to ESPN and CBS only picking 1 game. Nothing in writing.

People knew before we were bent over by A&M that we had a good chance of all night games

I understand that he has little control over the schedule, but he also doesn't deserve credit for night games. It's also looking like we have a good chance of playing at 1:30 on black Friday again
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 9:41 am
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