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Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:22 pm to LSU316
That pitcher was dealing. 0-2 most of the night. Didn't matter if Maddox was pitching got to hit the ball. They didn't help themselves at the plate tonite. But we have a pen full for tomorrow. Just hope CPM don't start a walk-on next game.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:23 pm to Friar Tuck
It wasn't a straightforward call on who takes the mound tonight.
There was discussion about it ad nauseous last night in many threads
This was a chance for those to revisit their thoughts.
Had we not scored on Singer, Mainieri would have been vindicated in his choice, and that's what I hoped.
But after watching us get 3 runs and their anemic offense score 3 of their 4 in one inning all put on base with the dugout begging for a strike down the middle, I feel confident Poche and Newman would have won Game 1.
There was discussion about it ad nauseous last night in many threads
This was a chance for those to revisit their thoughts.
Had we not scored on Singer, Mainieri would have been vindicated in his choice, and that's what I hoped.
But after watching us get 3 runs and their anemic offense score 3 of their 4 in one inning all put on base with the dugout begging for a strike down the middle, I feel confident Poche and Newman would have won Game 1.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:23 pm to wahoocs
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Poche pitching tonight could have relaxed just like everyone else. If he loses, we're not out of it.
"could have"... what if it didnt and he gave up 4 runs like the first time he faced them?
Just like pitching wholestaff tonight. We lose, we arent out of it. (Just like you said)
Now answer this honestly. would you rather have Poche (with an extra day of rest) and Lange available for must win games 2 & 3, or Wholestaff and Lange for must wins in 2 & 3?
Ill wait...
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:25 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
I say you need remedial math
Explain to me how Lange pitches on full rest?
Explain to me how Lange pitches on full rest?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:26 pm to wahoocs
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But your argument getting to Lange gives him the same rest Poche would have had today
So what. Your argument is that we shouldn't have given our best pitches the best chance that we could to allow them to win, knowing that this is the best of 3 and not just one game? You just don't get it and never will, no matter how plainly it is spelled out for you.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:29 pm to im4LSU
Nobody can know that
I'm not second guessing, it was my choice last night
I'm asking those that wanted Poche to have an extra day if they truly think he would have lost tonight after seeing Reynolds walk their runs on.
I also pointed out that team that wins first game is heavy favorite to win series.
That was last night
Honestly
I'm not second guessing, it was my choice last night
I'm asking those that wanted Poche to have an extra day if they truly think he would have lost tonight after seeing Reynolds walk their runs on.
I also pointed out that team that wins first game is heavy favorite to win series.
That was last night
Honestly
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:31 pm to wahoocs
There is no way to know what a Poche might have done.
Maybe he pitches a no-hitter. Maybe he gives up 4 runs in 3 innings.
There is no way to know.
Maybe he pitches a no-hitter. Maybe he gives up 4 runs in 3 innings.
There is no way to know.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:33 pm to wahoocs
You're kind of in the same boat regardless of throwing Poche tomorrow night or tonight. Johnny wholestaff was going to have to throw one of these games, would rather give Poche one more day to be closer to 100%
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:34 pm to wahoocs
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But if you can start a pitcher who gives up a walk, a hit, and a run per inning that leaves after walking the bases loaded and lose by a run, what would have happened if you had pitched your SEC Fri night starter on the same days rest you propose we pitch Lange if we're lucky enough to win tmrw?
Your making the assumption Poche throws on short rest tonight like he's done the past couple of weeks in Omaha . You can't just assume he would have thrown like he's been throwing recently on shorter rest.
What if on short rest tonight he threw like he did in the super regional against Miss State and has to get pulled in the 4rth because he couldn't throw a strike anymore? What if he pitched like he did earlier this year against, oh, I don't know, Florida maybe earlier this year where he once again didn't make it 5 innings because he gave us 6 hits and 3 ER and walked 4 and was chased after 4 innings? Why not give him the best opportunity to continue pitching like he has been doing recently since you have the opportunity to do just that by holding him till game 2 and getting more fully rested for his start?
Make sense?
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:34 pm to BilJ
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would rather give Poche one more day to be closer to 100%
Would also rather throw Poche on more rest against a guy with 1 start than tonight against Singer.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:35 pm to wahoocs
It's a 3 game series, and I think we're just fine. I bet Mainieri basically said what a lot of folks here were saying: go out and have fun today and get a feel for the moment, and we have Poche and Lange waiting to go for games 2 and 3, with Hess ready to close it down. And it damn-near worked anyway.
We got 3 runs against one of their big guns, and they got 4 against our bullpen. How do you objectively think it will go when we flip that on them?
More to the point, how do you think our players feel tonight about that, going into tomorrow's game? I think they'll be loose and ready, and Florida will tighten up a little.
We got 3 runs against one of their big guns, and they got 4 against our bullpen. How do you objectively think it will go when we flip that on them?
More to the point, how do you think our players feel tonight about that, going into tomorrow's game? I think they'll be loose and ready, and Florida will tighten up a little.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:35 pm to wahoocs
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I'm asking those that wanted Poche to have an extra day if they truly think he would have lost tonight after seeing Reynolds walk their runs on.
How Reynolds did in hindsight has nothing to do with the decision before the game, which was still the correct one. And it is not about if we think Poche would have lost tonight. You give Poche the best chance of winning and that means playing to win the series and not thinking tonight is the "must win".
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:35 pm to sardog12
I can spell out plainly with the best of them
I say Poche on one less day rest, which will be the same Lange gets, would pitch better knowing it's not all or nothing, like he will tmrw.
Vegas will tell you the same thing. I'm ALL FOR LSU, dude.
But odds are in the favor of the team that wins Game 1
I say Poche on one less day rest, which will be the same Lange gets, would pitch better knowing it's not all or nothing, like he will tmrw.
Vegas will tell you the same thing. I'm ALL FOR LSU, dude.
But odds are in the favor of the team that wins Game 1
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:36 pm to wahoocs
I don't understand how you're not understanding this..it's simple bruh..
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:37 pm to wahoocs
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I'm asking those that wanted Poche to have an extra day if they truly think he would have lost tonight after seeing Reynolds walk their runs on.
I truly do. They got to him the first time we played when he was on full rest and Singer was lights out.
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I also pointed out that team that wins first game is heavy favorite to win series.
No shite? Oregon state lost 4 games this year and they were heavy favorites to beat us... dont act like that shite matters. And I wonder how many of those teams that lost had their #1 and #2 pitchers for the last games?
Point is you have to give your team the best opportunity to win 2 games... not the first game.
Wholestaff, Poche, and Lange..... I tell you thats the rotation and we will win 2. Which 2 do you guess that we win? All I want to know....
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:37 pm to sainttrain713
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This whole, what FL did against Poche months ago argument is ridiculous
Well, Singer did just about the same thing HE did months ago...
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:37 pm to wahoocs
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But odds are in the favor of the team that wins Game 1
For all kinds of different reasons. How often does the team that loses game 1 still have their #2 and #1 starters going against a makeshift staff from the opponent?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:38 pm to wahoocs
It's equal to a pro ball pitchers rest. He's not a freshman. He's been drafted by a major League team. All he's missing is the contract which will be here soon.
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