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re: Alabama or Bust - The LSU Program
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:37 pm to dgnx6
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:37 pm to dgnx6
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Bama has more olinemen and linebackers, that I know for sure.
Herman Johnson
Joseph Barksdale
Trai Turner
La'el Collins (undrafted due to circumstances)
Perry Riley
Kelvin Sheppard
Kevin Minter
Lamin Barrow
Kwon Alexander
Pretty sure that's it....
ETA: Forgot Kwon and Barrow, and apparently Ali went undrafted. Also forgot to include big Herm.... to have three OL drafted and 4 NFL OL in 8 years is ridiculous for a program of LSU's stature.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 7:42 pm
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:39 pm to BeeFense5
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Hard to judge strictly by "nfl talent" when most of them are just skill and our line play has been mediocre.
He get's it.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:40 pm to chilge1
So you're saying Saban is a decent coach?
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:41 pm to chilge1
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Ali Highsmith
Perry Riley
Kelvin Sheppard
Kevin Minter
Add kwon, but not a single player from Louisiana. Beckwith and debo will change that, but 2 in 11 years? Our state doesn't produce enough talent at key positions.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:42 pm to Lester Earl
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Saban has never lost to ARK at ALA.
Did I say saban at Alabama?
I'm talking about at lsu. I know you are intelligent enough to realize saban at Bama is different than saban at lsu
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:42 pm to dgnx6
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Beckwith
Thought he was from Alabama...?
ETA: You're right, not sure where I thought I heard that from.
Problem is that all the good LB prospects are playing RB in Louisiana. Devin White is a good example.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:53 pm to BeeFense5
I'll give you OLine, but there are a ton of LSU defensive lineman.
I counted 7 Bama Dlineman and 9 LSU DLineman in the NFL.
I counted 7 Bama Dlineman and 9 LSU DLineman in the NFL.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:55 pm to TheWalrus
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give you OLine, but there are a ton of LSU defensive lineman.
Mingo and Dorsey are from LA. Who else still in the league? Montgomery not from here but I don't even know if he is still on a team.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:59 pm to TheWalrus
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counted 7 Bama Dlineman and 9 LSU DLineman in the NFL.
3-4 to 4-3 so about even I guess.
What linemen are still in the league? I'm drawing a blank. Tyson is on the falcons, looked that one up.
Plus the two I mentioned were on teams that beat Alabama.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:01 pm to dgnx6
Bennie Logan, Brockers, Ego, and Danielle Hunter are the recent ones. The first two were very good at LSU and in the NFL. The last two underachieved at LSU and then saw huge improvement quickly in the NFL. The Vikings couldn't believe how Hunter was totally wasted at LSU.
There are also a few older guys who aren't really relevant to the conversation, but still LSU guys like Jean-Francois, Kyle Williams, Al Woods and Tyson Jackson.
There are also a few older guys who aren't really relevant to the conversation, but still LSU guys like Jean-Francois, Kyle Williams, Al Woods and Tyson Jackson.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:02 pm to TheWalrus
Damn I forgot about all those guys, I need to turn in my fan card.
Bennie Logan another LA guy. Still looks like LA is lacking in enough talent at those positions. And again those guys beat Alabama.
Damn looking at this shite is making me glad we told Haley to take a hike.
Bennie Logan another LA guy. Still looks like LA is lacking in enough talent at those positions. And again those guys beat Alabama.
Damn looking at this shite is making me glad we told Haley to take a hike.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:04 pm to TheWalrus
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I counted 7 Bama Dlineman and 9 LSU DLineman in the NFL.
Kyle Williams - last played in 2005
Glenn Dorsey - last played in 2007
Tyson Jackson - last played in 2008
Ricky Jean-Francois - last played in 2008 (as a junior)
Al Woods - last played in 2009
Michael Brockers - last played in 2011 (as a sophomore)
Bennie Logan - last played in 2012 (as a junior)
Barkevious Mingo - last played in 2012 (as a junior)
Ego Ferguson - last played in 2013 (as a junior)
Jermauria Rasco - last played in 2014
Danielle Hunter - last played in 2014 (as a junior)
DLU has certainly taken a huge hit in recent years, and what's worse, we can't seem to keep any NFL prospects once they hit their physical maturity. It's also a bit concerning that we've only had 3 DTs drafted since 2009.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:08 pm to chilge1
Damn, this is really depressing. We really need orgeron to come big this cycle or the bleeding won't stop any time soon.
I may be wrong, but is Hunter the only one recruited when chavis was DC? I'm not counting any of those studs from that 09 class.
I may be wrong, but is Hunter the only one recruited when chavis was DC? I'm not counting any of those studs from that 09 class.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:27 pm to BeeFense5
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Know someone better than saban because he didn't do that here either?
I know that might hurt some lsu saban fan feelings
OK dipshit. Let's hire the coach of Arkansas then or better yet one of the five that beat them every year. We will put them on one year contracts and at the end of every season, we hire one of the 5-6 coaches who ends up beating AR...
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:43 pm to dgnx6
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I may be wrong, but is Hunter the only one recruited when chavis was DC?
2010 DL - Ego Ferguson, Justin Maclin, Jordan Allen, J.C. Copeland (FB)
2011 DL - Anthony Johnson, Jermauria Rasco, Mickey Johnson, Quentin Thomas
2012 DL - Danielle Hunter
2013 DL - Frank Herron, Greg Gilmore, Tashawn Bower, Christian Lacouture, Maquedius Bain (transfer), Michael Patterson
2014 DL - Davon Godchaux, Deondre Clark, Sione Teuhema, Trey LMFAO (dismissed), Travonte Valentine (dismissed)
2015 DL - Arden Key (Coach O), Isaiah Washington
2010 LB - Luke Muncie, D.J. Welter
2011 LB - Trevon Randle (ineligible)
2012 LB - Kwon Alexander, Lorenzo Phillips (ineligible) Ronnie Feist, Lamar Louis, Deion Jones, Trey Granier
2013 LB - Kendell Beckwith, Melvin Jones (FB, dismissed), Duke Riley
2014 LB - Clifton Garrett (transfer), Devin Voorhies (moved from S), Donnie Alexander
2015 LB - N/A
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:34 pm to chilge1
Miles has been an absolute stud of a coach and has endured a ton and keeps running out a competitive team regardless of circumstance. Who has done this? The sec has caught up and Is a Qb league now similar to the NFL. Miles hired cam. Saban hired kiffen. Those 2 moves separated the 2 programs.
If u don't have a superior Qb, u will need a dominating shutdown defense to win any hardware moving forward.
Miles may have burned out ; its a very difficult job and when your miss on high dollar personnel, it keeps u up at night. primadonna players do as well. It's a grinding job.
But for all of u non appreciative , believe lsu sits on a old burial ground or something and should win it all regardless of coach ....ask yourself this, which coach in the sec would u put your retirement $ on to replace Alabamas dominance? and if u had a gun to your head are u taking Hugh freeze this weekend?
If u don't have a superior Qb, u will need a dominating shutdown defense to win any hardware moving forward.
Miles may have burned out ; its a very difficult job and when your miss on high dollar personnel, it keeps u up at night. primadonna players do as well. It's a grinding job.
But for all of u non appreciative , believe lsu sits on a old burial ground or something and should win it all regardless of coach ....ask yourself this, which coach in the sec would u put your retirement $ on to replace Alabamas dominance? and if u had a gun to your head are u taking Hugh freeze this weekend?
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:08 pm to LSUANDY25
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Miles has been an absolute stud of a coach and has endured a ton and keeps running out a competitive team regardless of circumstance. Who has done this? The sec has caught up and Is a Qb league now similar to the NFL. Miles hired cam. Saban hired kiffen. Those 2 moves separated the 2 programs.
If u don't have a superior Qb, u will need a dominating shutdown defense to win any hardware moving forward.
Miles may have burned out ; its a very difficult job and when your miss on high dollar personnel, it keeps u up at night. primadonna players do as well. It's a grinding job.
But for all of u non appreciative , believe lsu sits on a old burial ground or something and should win it all regardless of coach ....ask yourself this, which coach in the sec would u put your retirement $ on to replace Alabamas dominance? and if u had a gun to your head are u taking Hugh freeze this weekend?
That is exactly what you've been blind of your entire life on the rant, we don't have to dethrone Bama at #1 for this to be a GREAT business move as a fanbase. All we HAVE to do is not lose 4 games every season for the next hire to be better than the Les.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:09 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
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All we HAVE to do is not lose 4 games every season for the next hire to be better than the Les.
Miles lost 4 games every season?
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:09 pm to chilge1
Now do the exact same thread but about Arkansas.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:18 pm to BeeFense5
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our line play has been mediocre.
So who's responsibility is that?
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