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re: Advocate columnist Matthew Harris believes Hill is done at LSU

Posted on 7/9/13 at 8:45 am to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 7/9/13 at 8:45 am to
Matthew Harris has no idea as to what he's talking about
Posted by Jwodie
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2009
7195 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:16 am to
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Advocate columnist Matthew Harris believes


Stopped reading there.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9920 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:32 am to
Poor editorial written by a non lawyer. This guys opinion means nothing.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:33 am to
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Hill knew he was on probation he should have just left it alone and left the bar in fact he shouldn't have been there to begin with. Oh well live and learn.


Why do people keep saying stuff like this? Is it against team rules for players to go to the bars? Hill is of legal age to enter a bar, so he had every right to be there if it wasn't against the rules of his probation.

Sure, probably not the best place to hangout for someone on probation with a lot to lose. However, it is where college kids hang out. Deal with it.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:38 am to
I'll repeat this:

I absolutely cannot believe how the LSU football program is treated in BR. At most big time programs shite like this would just run it's course and you would barely hear about it. Not in BR. What other big time programs have their own students targeting football players? ADA's trying to send a kid to jail for a fricking bar fight? Newspapers convicting people in articles? This shite is unbelievable.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31797 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:38 am to
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t all depends on the legal system treating him like a STAR football player,or a reg citizen.



Hes already gotten the baton rouge star football player treatment. This would be gone if he were a regular citizen. Hell he would have never been arrested because there would be no phone filming. One punch. No injuries. 2 misdemeanors. People are blowing this way out of proportion.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:43 am to
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Hes already gotten the baton rouge star football player treatment. This would be gone if he were a regular citizen. Hell he would have never been arrested because there would be no phone filming. One punch. No injuries. 2 misdemeanors. People are blowing this way out of proportion.


This.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:45 am to
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their own students targeting football players




Working with some badasses son.

Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:48 am to
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Working with some badasses son.



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TIGRLEE



Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:49 am to
There are some real self important assholes in BR, I'll tell you that.

This assistant DA is completely ridiculous.
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16523 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:50 am to
Hill will play for the Tigers next year, book it.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:50 am to
Solid contributions in this thread.
Give yourself a pat on the back.

Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:50 am to
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There are some real self important assholes in BR, I'll tell you that.

This assistant DA is completely ridiculous.


It's really something that they're wasting the resources on this shite.
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:52 am to
Especially considering oh I don't know...

People are being killed left and right in BR and they want to push to send a football player to jail for ONE punch in a bar fight when he was verbally provoked with alleged racial remarks...

Some of these posters are blood thirsty.
Posted by battscave
Member since Apr 2013
253 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:54 am to
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I wouldn't use racially degrading language to anyone in that setting and not expect to get punched in the face.
What if you were the one throwing the punch? you would expect to be arrested regardless of your excuse for swinging.
Posted by CourseyCorridor
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since May 2012
1996 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:57 am to
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if everyone that punched someone in the face got kicked off the team it would be a WNBA event out there.


You aren't understanding why he's in trouble. It's not so much for the punch, it's for incident with the 14-year-old girl.

That WAS a sexual charge originally, wasn't it? He pled guilty to a lesser charge and was put in probation.

Now, he violated the probation. Will the court system treat it as a violation of a misdemeanor probation, or as a guy who was charged with a more serious crime, then violated probation on a lesser charge.

In other words, will he be treated the same as a guy who's on probation for a crime that was a misdemeanor from the original charge. Let's say a guy who's caught vandalizing property by spray painting stuff on walls. He gets put on probation and gets in a bar fight during probation. Is he treated the same as a guy who's on probation after pleading down from a felony sex offense?

I don't know the answer to that question. Some Rant lawyers would have to chime in. But I do suspect the guy who pleads down from a felony sexual assault charge won't be treated the same as a guy whose original charge that eventually led to his probation was a somewhat innocuous vandalism charge.

This post was edited on 7/9/13 at 10:13 am
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:57 am to
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Inform them that if any weird shite happens, they will lose their privileges of playing for the LSU football team.

Like when he kicked the Heisman finalist off the team before the 2012 season?

There are some stupid people that post here. Or at least people that say incredibly stupid things.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:57 am to
Not to mention the gas station incident.

I do believe too much pressure is applied by somebody to police football players.
Fights happen every night in BR at LSU and southern, seems LSU players are the only ones that things get this blown up.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9151 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 10:06 am to
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Fights happen every night in BR at LSU and southern, seems LSU players are the only ones that things get this blown up.


Not hard to understand. They are viewed as public figures and the media goes apeshit over it. The publicity puts the cops and DA office in a tough spot. And there is usually a cellphone capturing the event and shared with the media. It's not like the old days when the media wouldn't report on such things if the cops and/or DA office swept it under the rug.

People in public life are scrutinized much more harshly. Not fair, but it is reality for them.

Posted by jondavid11
benton,la
Member since Aug 2007
1152 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 10:06 am to
It's insane to blame miles for not being able to stop this from happening. If a Judge that had Hill in his court giving him probation and explaining what could happen if he messes up couldn't get through to a kid then nothing Miles could do would either.
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