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re: A Memo to Coach Les Miles - an appeal to show CHARACTER
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:50 am to 7thWardTiger
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:50 am to 7thWardTiger
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You want the story of Jarett Lee!? Miles didn't believe Lee could help him win any of the final games. Point. Blank. fricking period. Its not some personal vendetta. Playing time is not owed to anyone. It's as simple as the coaches didn't believe Lee could help beat either UGA or Bama. Miles is showing Character by not saying that.
A freakin Men
JL could NOT handle Bama's D and Miles knew it.........in hindsight, neither could JJ.
Miles doesn't want to pile it on JL by saying this......sooooooo, better to not say anything at all.
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Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:50 am to therocketscientist
quote:
therocketscientist
I like Miles, but his handling of the Lee situation the last 5 games of this season was total bullshite. What's bad is that everyone in America knows it and so does Miles deep down.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:51 am to lake chuck fan
quote:Speak for yourself!
I believe it represents the majority of the fan base's opinion.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:51 am to wheelz007
21 - 0
Bitch slap on the biggest stage by the worst team we could have lost to under those circumstances.
Bitch slap on the biggest stage by the worst team we could have lost to under those circumstances.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:51 am to yallallcrazy
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How many big-time college football teams routinely bench starting QBs during a bad stretch of play? You guys are acting like its a common occurrence. In fact, the most common occurrence is to pick a starter and stay with him. The idea is to let that player go through the ups and downs.
You mean like Lee was pulled as the starter after 2 INTs in the first BAMA game.. i agree.. normally it takes a few bad games, like JJ has had, or several bad series within a game, like JJ had.....
haven't read the whole thread, don't know if this has been responded to.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:52 am to CptBengal
quote:
ask Lee if it would have been "unfair" to play him...
wanna bet what he thinks?
It really doesn't matter what Lee thinks. Few athletes who compete at a high level don't have confidence that supersedes their actual ability. And even fewer will come out and honestly admit that they were overmatched or out of their element.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:52 am to theunknownknight
quote:
So you are saying yes then?
What? I typed the EXACT OPPOSITE.
quote:
Put it this way, if you were told Jefferson would average 40 yards a game ( ) in the SEC championship and the Nation Championship games, would you have advocated for Lee to play? Yes or No?
I already answered this question you dolt. The fact that you felt the need to suggest I wrote the opposite is fairly distressing, though.
I then asked you if we were now going to bash a coach using solely hindsight data? You're not exactly going out on a limb by suggesting you would not play a player once you've already seen their game and they played poorly. turns out, most coaches don;t have a crystal ball...so they sort of have to make that decision WITHOUT your hindsight stats.
Knowing what Lee's play was going to be like in the first BAMA game, would you have started him in that November game anyway in that case?
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:54 am to BeeFense5
Their was an article on scout.com, might still be there, with the players questioning why there was no change. Specifically Randle, Blackwell, and OBJ
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:54 am to LSU82BILL
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It really doesn't matter what Lee thinks.
lulz.
We're down 15, 21 to zero...and we stick with a QB that ended the game with these stats:
52 yds passing
14 rushes for 15 yds
1 int
3 fumbles (1 lost)
0 tds
5 first downs
--What a joke, do you work in the athletic office?
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:54 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:
why do you feel Miles held Lee off the field?
I will take him at his word...that with the pass rush he wanted someone on the field who could use his feet. Now there's your answer...what the hell does that do for you? No one is questioning WHAT Miles thought but rather WHY he thought that JL could not help him when shite was crumbling around him. Now let's just suppose that he gets a mullligan...do you think that he does the same thing again?
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:54 am to theunknownknight
Link to the players comments brah. I would like to see these as well.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:55 am to josh336
Most of LSU fans, players, and the national media, plus Bama fans that think it was dumb not to try something else, even if it meant Mettenberger.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:55 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:
What? I typed the EXACT OPPOSITE.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:55 am to josh336
Thanks
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:56 am to GeauxTigerTM
Well Hell, it didn't take long for jj family and friends to say how jj is "god" and lee is the "devil" it is plain to see these remarks made about each one has something to do with race!!! You know race card is the last thing p[layed!!!!!
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:59 am to lsuhunt555
quote:how many were calling for JJ when Lee was the starter... I'll hang up and listen..
No, its the fan bases fixation with the backup QB thats so frustrating
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:59 am to CptBengal
quote:
lulz.
We're down 15, 21 to zero...and we stick with a QB that ended the game with these stats:
52 yds passing
14 rushes for 15 yds
1 int
3 fumbles (1 lost)
0 tds
5 first downs
--What a joke, do you work in the athletic office?
Nope.....and I guess you missed the post where I said nobody is happier than me that JJ will never take another snap at LSU again....and the emotional side of me wanted to see Lee get a chance during the game ....and even now. But the logical side of me knows what a disaster it could have been. I think against any other defense (you might throw UGA in there too) Jarrett Lee gets that chance.....but not against Bama and what they do on defense.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:59 am to 7thWardTiger
quote:
Link to the players comments brah. I would like to see these as well.
LINK
Here is some of Blackwell's:
In the locker room following the loss, a number of Tigers spoke up about the coaching staff’s decision to stick with Jefferson. The only disclaimer came from senior offensive lineman Will Blackwell. “That’s not why we lost the game,” Blackwell said. “To put the blame on one person or one thing is unfair. I hope nobody does that.”
quote:
“Unfortunately I don’t have a say in the game plan or personnel,” Blackwell said. “Jarrett didn’t get his shot, and I felt like maybe he should have, but he didn’t.”
quote:
“We could have taken more shots or done something to get the offense moving,” freshman receiver Odell Beckham Jr. said. “It could have been different.”
quote:
“Jarrett won nine games and we did very well in those nine games,” Blackwell said. “I feel like he throws the ball a little bit better than Jordan, but on the other hand Jordan runs it a little better than Jarrett. It’s kind of a pick your poison deal. “Unfortunately tonight we picked the wrong one.”
Posted on 1/11/12 at 10:00 am to crazycajun
quote:
I will take him at his word...that with the pass rush he wanted someone on the field who could use his feet
So would you consider this to be merely a coaching decision...one in which he could be completely wrong about...or some character issue that would indicate something deeper with his relationship with Lee? I ask this because it was, after all, the point seemingly of the OP's thread.
quote:
what the hell does that do for you?
It answers my question for starters.
quote:
No one is questioning WHAT Miles thought but rather WHY he thought that JL could not help him when shite was crumbling around him.
And that's fine. If people want to question a coaching move, then there are plenty of threads which do just that. Rocketscientist started this thread under the guise of calling this a character issue, and with that I took offense. There is no evidence for anything like that...just a coaching decision which can be wrong or right.
quote:
Now let's just suppose that he gets a mullligan...do you think that he does the same thing again?
Honestly...I'd still say he'd play JJ but likely alter the offense. This goes back to my original point which is that Miles has since 2008 considered JJ the better option under center. No reason to think that would change...
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