re: 8 years with Les.....what are your thoughts....

the first time he was offered I'm almost positive it was less. Maybe the second go 'round was more.

When he took the job I was an LSU fanatic, recruiting, offseason, the whole nine yards. Today I watch the games and hope they win but am no longer invested like I once was. Once he leaves I will return to being a die hard, bleeding purple and gold, in other words he killed my fanship.

Love less but we should have at least 2 or 3 or 4 more BCSNC.

2005 (bad tennesse comeback) 2006 (florida) 2011 (Bama rematch) and 2012 (piss poor execution at Florida and Bama comeback).



I might even go out on a limb and say we could have contended in 2012 if not for th

My fandom didn't waiver during the hallman years so I don't get peeps like that

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-95+ % of all games are close (includes good and bad teams)

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2011 team disagrees!

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Love less but we should have at least 2 or 3 or 4 more BCSNC.

2005 (bad tennesse comeback) 2006 (florida) 2011 (Bama rematch) and 2012 (piss poor execution at Florida and Bama comeback).

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I'll give you 2006, 2011(obviously, since we played there) and possibly 2012. But 2005 was a whirlwind of a season with Katrina. The fact that he was able to win the "home" game at ASU was pretty damn impressive. Then he had us up big in the first half against Tenn, but pressure got to him and everyone on the team. In my opinion he gets a pass for that season.

I know man

Reality is with the talent level on board it could happen

And final four or bust this year bitches!!!!!

ETA: if all thing were equal in the sec maybe it would be easier to say it as well

Oh, look, it's another Les is an enigma thread. I mean,just the fact that people can't even basically agree on whether or not the guy is a 'decent', (not even great) coach should tell you something.

Bottom line, the guy does more to damage his own and LSU's brand than any fan or website. For every 2 or 3 really good things that he does, he does at least 1 more to undo the good stuff. You have to take the bad with the good with him. Agree for the most part with the OP, he has done some good things but then turns around and lays an egg just as quickly.

I was underwhelmed by the first impression. His start on the sidelines was similarly underwhelming as in his first are second game he tried to call a time out with the clock stopped at a very important juncture of the game and one of the sideline extras had to check and stop him from doing it. I cringed.

It has taken me some time to get past that first impression and his ongoing issues with articulating.

I really thought 2008 and 2009 were the beginning of what I feared would be a slow downward spiral. I thought there were signs of a program a bit out of control. I to this day think those signs were legit issues.

That continued at the beginning of 2010. It was pretty ugly going into that Florida game. That ball bouncing our way on the fake FG was huge. I truly believe environment has a significant affect on performance and had that ball bounced wrong and we lost, it would have gotten very ugly in B.R.

But it went our way, the win energized the team and fan base and to Les's credit, he's kept it together better than I ever thought he could.

He gets credit from me for that. I can honestly say that 8 years ago I thought he was gonna be over his head here. While at times he has, for the most part he's handled the enormity of it.

I still have concerns and I'm certainly not one of the ring-kissers that think Les is a calculated genius who plays a dim-witted Columbo to fool his enemies. I think he truly is what you see.

But he's gotten the job done relatively speaking. I have never once called for his firing and I never will. He's exceeded in actual production what my perception of him would dictate that production to be.