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re: 260 pounds and runs in upper 4.4's. What Tiger player is this?
Posted on 7/25/16 at 3:36 pm to Fishhead
Posted on 7/25/16 at 3:36 pm to Fishhead
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just never understood what the nfl combine had to do with it. He's 3 years from that and will likely be slower due to conditioning, may even gain a few.
He's a fast freak of nature right now...I like it.
The nfl combine is state of the art timing thats not wind aided and the vast majority of 40 times coming out of camps and highschool are wildly inaccurate. There are a plethora of articles written about it. Most players spend months getting ready for the combine 40 time and its the most accurate meaurement of a players speed(not game speed). Since there have only been 2 players ever at his weight that have run a legit laser start laser stop time i dismissed his time without knowing of his track times.
I spoke out of ignorance of his track times.
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He's a fast freak of nature right now...I like it.
For sure and he has the coach that will get every ounce of talent out of him.
The more i talk to posters on here and the more i read Aranda 's comments i think our lb corp will be a strength unlike our recent lb corps where we have 1 or 2 standouts.
I feel like Key is about to explode, White was born to be a missile type JACK lb,and we all know how good Beck is. Olines in the sec will have a lsu front 7 of Neal, Key,White,Bower and Beckwith flying into the backfield and the 3-4 only makes us better because that 4th guy can come from anywhere.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 3:39 pm
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 3:36 pm to Geaux23
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Bottom line is this dude is a freak and a future all sec player if not all American
For sure.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 4:01 pm to MightyYat
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This wasn't really debated. The fact is White has a 4.49 on record that was laser timed. No one can really refute that. Not to mention the kid has track times out there that pretty much back up that he's a damn freak of nature.
I AM refuting that. My point is...
1. The Opening consistently produces unreal times that are not corroborated years later when the (improved) athlete goes to the Combine.
2. The Opening has a financial stake in showing super-fast times.
3. Therefore The Opening probably has calibrated their "laser timer" to start late or end early.
It's still good data because you can compare Opening times to each other. But it's reasonable to assume a player's Opening time is lower than reality.
Devin White clearly is a freak athlete. That's what has not been debated here. Rickdaddy has never refuted that. His point is that Devin White can't run a 4.48 forty while weighing 260 lbs. I agree with him.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 4:05 pm to Penrod
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I AM refuting that. My point is...
1. The Opening consistently produces unreal times that are not corroborated years later when the (improved) athlete goes to the Combine.
2. The Opening has a financial stake in showing super-fast times.
3. Therefore The Opening probably has calibrated their "laser timer" to start late or end early.
It's still good data because you can compare Opening times to each other. But it's reasonable to assume a player's Opening time is lower than reality.
Devin White clearly is a freak athlete. That's what has not been debated here. Rickdaddy has never refuted that. His point is that Devin White can't run a 4.48 forty while weighing 260 lbs. I agree with him.
We've moved past that pissing match.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 4:07 pm to Penrod
We should all be excited that we have such a freak athlete. His track times are legit but i just dont think he could run 4.48 in a nfl combine setting. I hope im wrong. By all accounts he is an amazing athlete and we are lucky he decided to be a Tigah.
Love yall
/ end thread.
Love yall
/ end thread.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 4:09 pm to MightyYat
Yeah its over. Dude is legit once in a generation fast. He is right up there with any wr we've had in the past.
Ok now end thread.sorry
Ok now end thread.sorry
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 7:08 pm to Penrod
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1. The Opening consistently produces unreal times that are not corroborated years later when the (improved) athlete goes to the Combine. 2. The Opening has a financial stake in showing super-fast times. 3. Therefore The Opening probably has calibrated their "laser timer" to start late or end early
I could understand inaccurate if it's a hand start like you say (link?), but intentionally manipulating better times? I don't see it
^ Kirk 4.49
^ Malachi Dupre 4.58
Edited a couple of familiar names together from 2014, any of those 40s look crazy? There are some big time prospects with reasonable/unspectacular times on that list.
Are you saying they started doing it very recently? I can't disprove until I find later lists, but I know donte was clocked upper 4.4s.
Having trouble finding full list from 2015 and 2016
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 10:07 pm to monroetiger13
Wowww and yall say Bama posters are bad 
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:22 pm to bamaqna
Yep it's gets bad here lol but you guys are just as or worse.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:34 pm to BayouBengal99
I admit theres a few of us that are just ridiculous but this thread just showed me a whole new level of pettiness that I have yet to see lol
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:51 pm to Penrod
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when the (improved) athlete goes to the Combine.
Some posters have made this argument, but I think it's valid. Players gain tons of weight from HS to nfl. It is very plausible to think some are actually slower at the combine.
Hell, PP7 gained what, 30 lbs? I may be wrong, but I don't think strength and conditioning make that big of a difference with speed. It usually just comes natural.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:02 am to monroetiger13
I don't know about his 40 time, but Devin White ran a 10.68 in the 100 meters in high school, which is absolutely fricking flying for a kid that's 250 plus
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:14 am to bamaqna
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I admit theres a few of us that are just ridiculous but this thread just showed me a whole new level of pettiness that I have yet to see lol
As long as you have Harvey Updyke and the teabagger in your fan base you'll never lose the most fanatical fans contest.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:48 am to SportTiger1
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Players gain tons of weight from HS to nfl. It is very plausible to think some are actually slower at the combine.
that's the point I was making. Many football players running speed actually does peak at high school regardless of whether they have exagerated 40 times or not. Many players 40 times at the combine are similar to their 40 times at the opening, some are faster, many are slower. I would expect many to have slower times at the combine than at the opening just due to the amount of size and strength they put on while in their colleges strength and conditioning programs.
Even if, and it appears so, that Devin White really had a good day and really nailed the 40 that day at the opening, and if 4.53 might have been a been a more 'average' day for him. It still wouldn't surprise me if he ran more in the 4.57 range (which would still be smoking fast for a huge LB) at the NFL combine after 4 years at LSU of working out and playing college football.
Also a lot of players (like Devin White) run track while in high school, which they don't do in college, so they may be more in 'track' shape at these type things like 'the opening' if they are held in the spring or summer. I know they get in shape for the 40 and have sprint coaches to tune up for the combine but is it really like they do after running a full season of track. I doubt it.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:01 am to boxcar willie
Nine pages. This is hilarious.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 7:15 am to BillF
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Devin White clearly is a freak athlete. That's what has not been debated here. Rickdaddy has never refuted that. His point is that Devin White can't run a 4.48 forty while weighing 260 lbs. I agree with him
That would make you just as wrong. There was a link provided that said he did. That is called proof regardless of what you think. He may never run it again but he did on that day and his track times seemingly corroborate a 4.4 40 is indeed possible.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:44 pm to bamaqna
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I admit theres a few of us that are just ridiculous but this thread just showed me a whole new level of pettiness that I have yet to see lo
What? Youre a part of a fan base that murders other members because they dont seem upset enough with a bama loss and you think a squibble on a message board is a level of pettiness you have yet to see?
A gunt making this claim is the pinnacle of irony.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:52 pm to Penrod
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years later when the (improved) athlete goes to the Combine.
improved athlete? yes, bigger and stronger, but faster than senior year in high school? sometimes, but that additional size and strength is going to slow down some also.
quote:HOw would fast times improve their financials?
The Opening has a financial stake in showing super-fast times.
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Therefore The Opening probably has calibrated their "laser timer" to start late or end early.
maybe they allow more lean at the start or a player to time the start easier to some degree
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:59 pm to nofear67
You dumb fricks are still talking about this.. hilarious.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:02 pm to DALSU
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You dumb fricks are still talking about this.. hilarious
Ive had a women thats very close to DWHITE and him running a 4.4 is a "DONE DEAL". It'll be anounced probably Thursday. When it doesnt happen Thursday ill make a vague post around midnight ,Friday morning, insinuating that its still a done deal.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 1:09 pm
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