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re: 2015 is the year that ended a few BS myths about Miles and our offensive scheme
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:41 pm to RedTigerRulz
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:41 pm to RedTigerRulz
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But unfortunately, minus these two elements and it sucks hard.
Minus those 2 elements all offenses suck, LSU's doesn't suck near as much as other schemes though, look at what Auburn is going through right now.
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:44 pm to beauchristopher
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total o - 27th
Total offense is a skewed stat. It's skewed by plays ran.
Yards per play is a pure stat because it's no skewed by plays ran.
For example- 2013 lsu was 12th in the country in offensive yards per play but we were 105th in plays ran so our total offense was skewed. Teams that run a HUNH have a les effective offense but they run far more plays so their totals are higher.
LSU is 6th in the country in offensive yards per play.
LSU is 119th in plays ran so it skews our total offense #s
The only thing keeping our total offense in the 20s is our lack of a HUNH offense.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 8:37 am
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:46 pm to Rickdaddy4188
The only "myth" I care about being put to bed is that Saban broke him and he cant regain his footing.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:46 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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decent qb play in 06,07,09,2011, 2013, 2015
1 good year with Mett. Outside of that, you'd be hard-pressed to use the word decent to describe the QB play during those years.
Were there moments of decency or decent games during that stretch?...of course. But taken as a whole, it wasn't great and coupled with some good running backs actually held us back quite a bit.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:47 pm to RedTigerRulz
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We've changed our scheme quite a bit this year.....or haven't you noticed?
What? We haven't changed our scheme at all. We added a couple zone reads but other than that this is the same offense we have always ran uner Cam.
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Its not the same ol BS from the past.
Lol. It most certainly is. 80 % of our offensive output comes from the iformation. Do you even watch the games?
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:47 pm to Soft_Parade
I can't believe people smart enough to use the Internet are trying to claim that LSU hasn't had relatively poor QB play over the last 7 or 8 seasons.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:50 pm to Deactived
Do you really believe your BS? Jennings wasn't going to start regardless of the arrest. Why is so fricking hard for some to accept that Harris was just not ready last year??
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:50 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Lol. It most certainly is. 80 % of our offensive output comes from the iformation.
Formation isn't everything. We have a significantly different and sophisticated blocking scheme, and it has been quite productive - 6.7 yards per carry (regardless of back) and 8.5 yards per pass attempt.
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Do you even watch the games?
I could ask you the same thing.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:52 pm to RedTigerRulz
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good year with Mett. Outside of that, you'd be hard-pressed to use the word decent to describe the QB play during those years.
WOW. You clearly have no idea about lsu football.
2006- the best passing season in lsu history.
2007- matched single season passing td record and 9th best passing season in lsu history
2009-17 tds -7 ints top 5 in the sec in qb rating and 10th best passing season in lsu history
2011- JLee 13tds -1 int
JJ 6tds-1 int both qbs over 138 qb rating.
2013-2nd best passing season in lsu history
2015 Harris is 2nd in the sec in qb rating and has a td-ints ration of 9tds -0ints.
You realize you can look this up before posting, right?
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:54 pm to Ace Midnight
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Formation isn't everything. We have a significantly different and sophisticated blocking scheme,
No we don't. It's the same scheme Grimes used last year.
The blocking scheme isn't new. You really need to educate yourself.
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could ask you the same thin
Im not the dumbass saying our scheme is different when anyone with minimal knowledge knows it's the same.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:56 pm to uway
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can't believe people smart enough to use the Internet are trying to claim that LSU hasn't had relatively poor QB play over the last 7 or 8 seasons
2006- the best passing season in lsu history.
2007- matched single season passing td record and 9th best passing season in lsu history
2009-17 tds -7 ints top 5 in the sec in qb rating and 10th best passing season in lsu history
2011- JLee 13tds -1 int
JJ 6tds-1 int both qbs over 138 qb rating.
2013-2nd best passing season in lsu history
2015 Harris is 2nd in the sec in qb rating and has a td-ints ration of 9tds -0ints.
THE ABOVE POSTS ARE NOT MY OPINIONS. THEY ARE FACTS.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:56 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Do you even watch the games?
You're in rare form tonight. Once again trying to convince the world and yourself that Miles is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Save this BS. We're on a roll and playing well...right now. Our biggest test is coming up and we've still got hot garbage going on with the D/STs at times. You're trying to pick a fight about our offense. It's better....of course...what would you expect? Harris is playing much better and LF is playing outta his mind. Insert Jennings into the O and take out LF and see where we are. We wouldn't be undefeated thats for sure so yeah the offense is clicking right now because of 2 skilled players not because Miles/Cam suddenly got really smart.
You wanna say the O is the same....go ahead...whatever helps you sleep at night.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:57 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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2. Our scheme is what prevents us from being a good offense and not the execution of the scheme.
our scheme has really developed quite well this season. That's what I feel best about moving forward. Using a lot more shotgun formations, read options, more misdirection, throwing the ball when not necessarily dictated by down and distance. Could use the TE a little more but seems they are trying to use them more. Just a lot less predictable and it's still developing. Little setback in the first half of the W Kentucky game when they kind of got away from it, probably due to the weather. Offense has really come around this season especially in the last 3 games.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:57 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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No we don't. It's the same scheme Grimes used last year.
The blocking scheme isn't new.
It was new last year. I'm not saying what we're doing this year is "brand new", but this is new since Mett - it had to be, because last year, neither QB could do what Mett did in 2013 - and didn't have the NFL starting receivers that Mett had.
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Im not the dumbass saying our scheme is different when anyone with minimal knowledge knows it's the same.
So, Cameron's scheme in 2013 is the scheme we used last year and the scheme we're using this year?
Got it.
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You really need to educate yourself.
Amen, brother, amen.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:59 pm to RedTigerRulz
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You're in rare form tonight. Once again trying to convince the world and yourself that Miles is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Yeah because stating FACTS about 2015 is saying Miles is great.
God our fans can't even be happy with one of the most productive offenses in cfb. Gotta find some way to shut on it.
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You wanna say the O is the same....go ahead...whatever helps you sleep at night.
It's a fact we are running the same scheme. Link one thing saying we have a new scheme in 2015.just one. If it's soooo obvious you should be able to find multiple sources saying we are running a new scheme.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:00 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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2006- the best passing season in lsu history.
2007- matched single season passing td record and 9th best passing season in lsu history
2009-17 tds -7 ints top 5 in the sec in qb rating and 10th best passing season in lsu history
2011- JLee 13tds -1 int
JJ 6tds-1 int both qbs over 138 qb rating.
2013-2nd best passing season in lsu history
2015 Harris is 2nd in the sec in qb rating and has a td-ints ration of 9tds -0ints.
You can take these numbers and shove them up your arse....a long way dude.
I look at SEC titles and NCs as a basis for success not all this BS you're spewing. how did we fare in those areas?
How has our passing helped up win bowl games in recent years?
Outside of Mett, which of our QBs is productive in the NFL right now?
You realize you can look this up before posting, right?
Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:01 pm to RedTigerRulz
Wow any offense would suffer it were not for x amount of skilled athletes. That's just a stupid statement you made.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:01 pm to Ace Midnight
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was new last year.
Yeah LAST YEAR. not this year
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So, Cameron's scheme in 2013 is the scheme we used last year and the scheme we're using this year?
Uh yeah. Are you really saying it isnt? You think Harris has progressed to having the 2nd best qb rating in the sec by changing to a new scheme during his 1st year of truly being a starter?
Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:04 pm to RedTigerRulz
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look at SEC titles and NCs as a basis for success not all this BS you're spewing. how did we fare in those areas?
Well 2006 qb has a sec title rung and 2 sec west rings
2007 has a sec titles ring and a national title ring
And 2009 &2011 both have a sec title ring.
So yeah they have rings too. You can always tell the football ignorant posters by the people that use team accomplishments( titles/ championships) to rank individuals.
Say what you want but 2006,07,2009,2011,2013,2015 are some of the most productive passing seasons in lsu history.
THE ABOVE STATEMENT ISN'T MY OPINION. IT'S A FACT
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Outside of Mett, which of our QBs is productive in the NFL right now?
What does this have to do with cfb qbs success? Tim Tebow was one of the best qbs in cfb history and get a job as a backup. No one would choose Matt Stafford over Tim Tebow to lead a cfb team.
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:05 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Lol. It most certainly is. 80 % of our offensive output comes from the iformation. Do you even watch the games?
over the last 3 games? Where are you getting that stat from? We've run a lot more shotgun and been very productive out of it. OUr biggest offenseive outputs this season have been in the games that we've used more shotgun, Florida, S Carolina, and W Kentucky (2nd half).
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