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re: You think we have issues getting recruits to come here?

Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:54 pm to
Obviously not too many are listening to these young guys. Last I checked, Alabama still has some pretty good commits.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12868 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:58 pm to
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He's the type of kid that might not ever develop but if he does, will be nasty.
with his speed I don't think it would take much coaching to develop honestly. He can afford to lack some physical play (jamming) and get beat off the line and make it up. I do agree with the best coaching he could be tops, and more quickly.

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Just curious what day TB enrolls. Don't think he is.flipping etc. Just curious
If I'm remembering correctly Bama starts classes on the 8th. So if he's going to flip it almost has to be tomorrow (theoretically he could not enroll and wait until the 15th when LSU starts).
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:03 pm to
But I also agree about Tony Brown. I do a lot of work in Beaumont area, and i have a lot of friends that go to his games. Hes a way better athlete than he is a football player at this point. Hes extremely fast out there on the field, but isnt physical and doesnt have the best technique because he relies on his speed to make up for bad technique. And they say hes more impressive in shorts than he is with pads on. But hes a great talent. No doubt about that.

If he gets with a great DB coach, which Saban is, and gets more physical and better technique there isnt a reason why he wouldnt be awesome.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 10:04 pm
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19995 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:06 pm to
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But I also agree about Tony Brown. I do a lot of work in Beaumont area, and i have a lot of friends that go to his games. Hes a way better athlete than he is a football player at this point. Hes extremely fast out there on the field, but isnt physical and doesnt have the best technique because he relies on his speed to make up for bad technique. And they say hes more impressive in shorts than he is with pads on. But hes a great talent. No doubt about that.


He's the type of kid you take a chance on being a bust, because his ceiling is so high.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:08 pm to
Oh yea no doubt about that. You take him, regardless. Because if he can be coached up and get a more physical mentality, hes got the skills to be an elite CB at every level of football. And if he doesnt get coached up and become more physical, you still have an elite return guy.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 10:10 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 10:43 pm to
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You believe this bullshite? Bama fans just can't accept that a recruit would visit and decide NOT to commit. There must be a reason - players told them not to, Saban cooled off on the kid, etc etc



Make excuses for them. Par for the course. They're totally infallible. We get it.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:29 am to
This thread is hilarious.
I can't believe some of you believe the shite that you write.

So bama players are telling recruits not to come there??? It must be true since it was reported on their own fan site. Good God. Sure 1 or 2 guys may say something like this, but that can happen (& does) everywhere by disgruntled players that haven't received playing time. Newsflash...there are unhappy players at every program.

Let's assume it is true on a significant scale (which is a huge stretch).
If true, Saban must be an even better recruiter/salesman than we all thought. B/c even with his own current players telling recruits not to come, he still has the best class in the country (& has for the past few years).

An now we're getting into Brown who might be a bust and needs time to develop (if ever) to play at a big time program...(all while rated the #1 CB in the country). Yet LSU had 2 true freshman start and contribute quite well just this season.

This place cracks me up.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:56 am to
I don't see anyone saying it must be true. It's an interesting talking point if anything else. Not much going on right now, calm down.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 10:59 am
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:18 am to
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This story is actually true. And it went a step further. The players said if they could do it all over again, there is no way they would pick Bama.
seems like a pretty factual statement to me
I agree it's interesting nonetheless....in a comical, you-can't-really-be-serious way.

And the comments about Brown are utterly absurd b/c there is bust potential for every prospect....and recent history (this season, with our own team....twice) has proven that him succeeding early is not a stretch at all.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43080 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:23 am to
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Make excuses for them. Par for the course. They're totally infallible. We get it.
Make excuses for who? Im saying their fans are idiots. Who am I making excuses for?

typical reply from you, you try to disagree with anything I say.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:40 am to
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Make excuses for who? Im saying their fans are idiots. Who am I making excuses for?

typical reply from you, you try to disagree with anything I say.




Their fans aren't the ones breaking the story. It's media in Alabama that's reporting it. Why are people so ready to believe anything people like S/S feed us but shite on all other media sources?

Again, not saying I believe it, but it makes sense of that baffling Hootie decommit/recommit, since it was reported that "something happened" on the recruiting visit that made him change course. Also makes sense of what Whitley said about making one mistake and falling off the depth chart.

It certainly makes more sense than the rumor perpetuated by some of our fans that Saban told Hootie to decommit just to frick with LSU.

Intresting talking point though, primarily. It doesn't mean that their class isn't still superb.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 11:43 am
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22777 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:24 pm to
Am I on the rant???? MEDIA reports what everyone here has been howling about for years... Saban lies about early playing time... and people here are saying it isn't so that the recruits finally had someone get the message out.

I have for years wondered why this doesn't happen more often. bout time someone on the diatoms team goes postal.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43080 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:29 pm to
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It certainly makes more sense than the rumor perpetuated by some of our fans that Saban told Hootie to decommit just to frick with LSU.
Yeah, thats total nonsense.

Maybe this rumor about the current players there is true, I could be wrong. My point really is that their fans will make any excuse they can when a player doesnt pick them (sort of like TD I guess). Wasnt really an offer, saban cooled off on him, mom wanted him elsewhere, scared of competition, etc etc. They just cant understand that some kids just arent impressed and dont feel its their in their best interest.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:29 pm to
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It certainly makes more sense than the rumor perpetuated by some of our fans that Saban told Hootie to decommit just to frick with LSU.
this I agree with
Posted by NGATiger
Member since Dec 2013
3044 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:41 pm to
Alabama is the most talented team in the country, but any recruiting addicts worth their salt will tell you most years the gap between the 1st and 5th best classes isn't enormous. Sometimes even the 1st and 10th if the class is deep.

Alabama has been able to sell their seniors on coming back to win a championship or repeat as champions. Its an easy sell, especially to guys who aren't likely to be injured anyway (everyone except skill position guys).

In our case, LSU has fielded a good defense with a mediocre or just bad offense, or a good offense with a young defense. Next year its on the progression of the offense, which I think should hit a stride by the time we play Alabama.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:47 pm to
Brown is not flipping. From what I heard there were some shady dealings going on with Bama.

With Brown's sister voicing her support for Bama, will she be transferring from LSU?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43080 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 1:06 pm to
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Next year its on the progression of the offense, which I think should hit a stride by the time we play Alabama.
Man I hope so..but Im not expecting much for the O next year. Hill and Collins returning would be huge for this team and the development of the new guys.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:25 pm to
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Next year its on the progression of the offense, which I think should hit a stride by the time we play Alabama.
very optimistic to think the offense should progress having lost 3 of the best players LSU has seen in quite a while
(& with an OL still coached by Stud #unnecessaryjab)
Posted by sammyptiger
Member since Nov 2012
1037 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:27 pm to
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very optimistic to think the offense should progress having lost 3 of the best players LSU has seen in quite a while (& with an OL still coached by Stud #unnecessaryjab)
this happens every year in CFB and magically, teams still figure out how to score points.
Posted by LuzianaFootball
Bay Area
Member since Dec 2008
7845 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:36 pm to
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Their CBs actually suck so he could play earlier there than lsu


But but but Saban is the best DB coach in the country pros or college.

But they had the number one ranked *fill in the blank* and the number one ranked class. What happened to all those guys?
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