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re: Why wasn't Anthony Jennings recruited more heavily by other schools?
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:01 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:01 pm to wildtigercat93
I see a lot of the "Drew Brees lacks arm strength" meme here and I honestly think everyone repeating that is, well, repeating it. If you watch Brees throwing in games he doesn't have elite NFL arm strength but he has a strong arm and can make long passes and get the ball into tight coverage. Anthony Jennings looks like a good find, but he doesn't have the strength that Drew Brees has. When I made the comment that the ball floats a little when he throws it that's the same thing as in baseball where the ball stays up in the zone. A stronger arm and the ball has a flatter trajectory, get's there quicker, and will enhance accuracy. When the ball doesn't have as much on it it will tend to flutter a little more and stay up a bit, that's what I saw from Jennings. He doesn't have the arm strength Mettenburg has, or really that Flynn or Jefferson had either. Doesn't mean he's a horrible person or I wish they had not recruited him, but I doubt he has a future in the NFL, and I don't think he's on par with Drew Brees level of arm strength either.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 11:52 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 12/24/13 at 2:06 am to Brood211
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See Kellen Moore....
idiot
ETA: bookmarked for future laughs
for you saying something stupid.
Accuracy in college trumps everything. You think Murray or McCarron have a cannon? Dude doesn't have a weak arm and neither does he have a cannon, his arm is more than enough to get the job done though.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 2:17 am to wildtigercat93
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Ask that same scout about Bradys arm now
That's what coaching and body development does genius. Dude will have Cam for at least two more offseasons and will develop as time goes considering he's only 19.
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 2:29 am
Posted on 12/24/13 at 2:29 am to Datbayoubengal
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That's what coaching and body development does genius. Dude will have Cam for at least three more offseasons and will develop as time goes considering he's only 19.
arm talent is innate.. don't care how hard you train, you can't train to throw 100mph fastballs if you don't have the genetic talent.
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 2:30 am
Posted on 12/24/13 at 3:12 am to bmy
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arm talent is innate.. don't care how hard you train, you can't train to throw 100mph fastballs if you don't have the genetic talent.
You can't train to have a cannon, but his body can grow enough that increases his arm talent.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 6:52 am to bmy
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no one considers drew brees to have a weak arm either
Are you kidding? I certainly consider Brees to have a weak arm. I think his arm is close to being too weak to play in the NFL. Brees makes up for it by being as poised as Brady, as studious as P. Manning, and as accurate as Joe Montana.
Brees could not have thrown the pass that AJ beat Arky with. I know a bunch of tards are going to cry BS, but it's true. He couldn't reach the end zone from the 50 (8 yards short) against Carolina this week.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 7:02 am to scottynola
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If you watch Brees throwing in games he doesn't have elite NFL arm strength but he has a strong arm and can make long passes and get the ball into tight coverage.
Scottynola, you make a good point here. Above, I wrote that Brees couldn't have reached the WR on the bomb that beat Arky. But he does throw a hard flat 20 yard out, which is more important in the NFL. I'm often puzzled by Brees' inability to reach deep receivers when he can throw strikes on outs.
To make it in the NFL, AJ needs to take a page from Brees and learn to put his whole body into those outs. In college that's rarely needed, though.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 11:48 am to Penrod
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I'm often puzzled by Brees' inability to reach deep receivers when he can throw strikes on outs.
A lot of the time I think he intentionally underthrows. Brees likes back shoulder passes more than any other QB I've seen, it's really his signature move to me. Also, as much as I hate to say it, Brees is deteriorating. He isn't the player he was 2-3 years ago, he doesn't put quite as much on the ball anymore.You look at some of his older games he was hitting Colston 50 yards out with ease. Now he struggles to drop the ball in from that distance.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 1:35 pm to scottynola
quote:And you know all this about AJ based on a one minute drive?
I see a lot of the "Drew Brees lacks arm strength" meme here and I honestly think everyone repeating that is, well, repeating it. If you watch Brees throwing in games he doesn't have elite NFL arm strength but he has a strong arm and can make long passes and get the ball into tight coverage. Anthony Jennings looks like a good find, but he doesn't have the strength that Drew Brees has. When I made the comment that the ball floats a little when he throws it that's the same thing as in baseball where the ball stays up in the zone. A stronger arm and the ball has a flatter trajectory, get's there quicker, and will enhance accuracy. When the ball doesn't have as much on it it will tend to flutter a little more and stay up a bit, that's what I saw from Jennings. He doesn't have the arm strength Mettenburg has, or really that Flynn or Jefferson had either. Doesn't mean he's a horrible person or I wish they had not recruited him, but I doubt he has a future in the NFL, and I don't think he's on par with Drew Brees level of arm strength either.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 1:47 pm to Penrod
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In college that's rarely needed, though
AJ also didn't put anything into that throw. If you watched JJ, and people say he had great arm strength, he always seemed like he was gearing up to launch a space shuttle, but sometimes only threw it 20-30 yards. I'm pretty sure over time and development, Cam can get AJ to throw darts on passes that require them. AJ will probably be the most polished QB when he comes out.
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 12/24/13 at 4:59 pm to Laman1978
His arm is plenty strong for college. Flynn, Lienart, arron Murry, Johnny football, kelen Moore, Tebow, ... There is a long list of college championship level QB with similar arm strength.
On the drive against Arkansas, he did float the ball out to the flat that was a bit scary. But, he came back with good touch and accuracy on the TD pass. He made a great throw out of the end zone to the tight end in traffic on the run. I have a lot of hope for this Jennings. I think some of us are shell shocked still from Jefferson/Lee years. On phone so excuse typo.
On the drive against Arkansas, he did float the ball out to the flat that was a bit scary. But, he came back with good touch and accuracy on the TD pass. He made a great throw out of the end zone to the tight end in traffic on the run. I have a lot of hope for this Jennings. I think some of us are shell shocked still from Jefferson/Lee years. On phone so excuse typo.
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 12/24/13 at 5:04 pm to Penrod
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Brees could not have thrown the pass that AJ beat Arky with. I know a bunch of tards are going to cry BS, but it's true. He couldn't reach the end zone from the 50 (8 yards short) against Carolina this week.
LINK
What.. isn't that close to 60 yards in the air on the money
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:16 pm to wallowinit
Don't get ahead of yourself. The guy has yet to prove himself. Remember - his heroics were against juggernaut Ar-CAN-sus. Keep it in perspective.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 7:49 am to bmy
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isn't that close to 60 yards in the air on the money
Great throw. As thedoc pointed out, it's from two years ago. Brees can't come close to that now. Even in his prime, Brees had below average NFL arm strength. Now it's poor. Based on what little I've seen, I'd rate Jennings' arm strength a not h below Brees' in his prime. It's at best "not a strength". Realistically, it's a weakness.
I love the comment above that JJ always looked like he was launching the space shuttle AJ seems to have a quick release.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 10:07 am to Penrod
Wow you are mentally challenged if you believe that crap.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 9:45 pm to Fun Bunch
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