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re: Top 5 class incoming...
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:39 pm to The Pirate King
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:39 pm to The Pirate King
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Losing the #1 DB in the state 3 straight years for a place that dubs itself DBU is pretty devastating.
And we need good DB’s badly.
While I agree with you, it is funny how you always pick out the one thing and harp on it.
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Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:40 pm to GMoney2600
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Mack isn't ranked anywhere near McBryde actually.
Mcbryde is always around the ball making plays. Dude is one of my favorite recruits.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:20 am to LifeAquatic
Dude you have got to be able to be realistic and realize you are getting these down votes because you are just that absolutely wrong here. If you pick up 2 5 stars and 2 top 100 4 stars there’s no chance you end up at 12. You even know that man. Just sound it out and say you were wrong. It’ll be ok.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:45 am to LifeAquatic
They haven't even played their senior season. There's a lot of rankings that can and will change. BK seems to have an eye for talent. We could have a number of 3-stars suddenly become 4-stars, and we could have some 4 stars jump to five stars. So saying a top 5 class is "basically impossible" is pretty silly. It may not be likely, but it certainly isn't impossible.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 2:54 am to DocBugbear
As it stands the numbers don’t lie. There is legitimate reason for concern.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 4:24 am to LifeAquatic
quote:LSU is 12th now. If they lose Atkins and pick up just Simmons, McKinley, Durham, Watkins, and no recruits rankings change at all, the class number would be 7-9th based on the average of the last 5 years' classes. However in total that is only 23 commits. Once you add most likely recruiting bumps, that will likely move the class up one spot so 6th-8th ranked. An 8th ranked class at worst, with only 23 commits in a supposedly down Louisiana recruiting year is an elite class.
Top 5 class is basically impossible at this point. Even if we shoot the moon with both of the big remaining Louisiana kids plus both duncanville kids plus this ole miss flip plus another surprise plus keep every single current commit, that puts our class score at a number that would’ve been like 8th or 9th or 10th last year.
Ship has sailed on a top 5 class. Most likely scenario we land like 12th
Also another thing people are forgetting, if in fact both Simmons and Durham commit to LSU on Tuesday, like that was no joke and both were super serious, that is recruiting momentum BIG TIME! It will have meant that from July 22nd to August 1st, LSU would have gotten 1 OT, a LB/S, a CB, a RB, and an EDGE. Five commits in 10 days, with 4 being top 150 overall recruits. With losing Atkins, that would still put us 4th in the rankings going into fall camp with only 21 commits. For reference the top 3 has 19, 21, and 26 commits which would put our class average rating not too far off from theirs.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 5:22 am to Lark225
We are so far behind UG it's a shame. UG is on another planet with recruiting compared to what we are doing since Coach O left. This I the elephant in the room.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 5:30 am to LSUTIGGERS22
Orgeron did not manage rosters and could not keep talent he and staff recruited….Kelly is an educated professional. Rankings are overrated….
Posted on 7/31/23 at 6:03 am to Menatiger
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As it stands the numbers don’t lie. There is legitimate reason for concern.
There's a whole lot more to recruiting than star-gazing. Otherwise, A&M would be tearing it up based on their last few classes. We're going to end up with a solid class full of players with the right attitude and work ethic, and we're surely going to finish in the top 10. BK has a staff that seems top notch at evaluating and developing talent, and those 3-star players on our list seem pretty impressive for their grade. I don't see any reason for concern, much less a "legitimate" one.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 6:08 am to JiminyCricket
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Actually, you are wrong.
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281 lands us at 8 in 2023
So exactly what I said? Lmao how is this a real reply that you actually typed and posted?
Posted on 7/31/23 at 6:10 am to LifeAquatic
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”281 lands us at 8 in 2023”
So exactly what I said? Lmao how is this a real reply that you actually typed and posted?
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You want to bet me? I guarantee you we will not be in the top 8.
Receipts are a bitch, aren’t they?
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 6:11 am
Posted on 7/31/23 at 6:15 am to king47
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If you pick up 2 5 stars and 2 top 100 4 stars there’s no chance you end up at 12.
I know reading is tough but that’s not what I said. I said IF we shoot the moon then we will be somewhere around #8. But they call it shooting the moon for a reason—because it’s not likely—and the more likely outcome is that we DONT land all those guys, in which case we probably finish on the doorstep of the top 10, like I said.
It’s truly hilarious to watch this board tell itself EVERY YEAR when we get down to ~5-7 last spots that we are a lock to land all of our remaining targets. It has literally never happened, guys.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 6:29 am to JiminyCricket
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Receipts are a bitch, aren’t they?
You can’t possibly be this dumb. Here’s how the conversation went.
OP: Top 5 class incoming
Me: a top 5 class is virtually impossible. Even a literal perfect finish only gives us a class score that would’ve ranked in the 8-10 range last year.
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Some other guy (to me): even without Mack, they’ll finish between 5-7.
Me (to some other guy): without Mack, I bet you they will finish outside the top 8
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You (to me): you’re wrong when you say landing all those guys would only give us a class score that would be 8th-10th last year. I added it up and they’d be 8th. So you’re wrong
Me (to you): dude you literally just confirmed exactly what I said
You(to me): quotes me out of context telling a different guy that lll bet him we don’t finish top 8 without Mack in th class. Says “receipts are a bitch” as if you didn’t just completely prove yourself wrong
ETA: I also find it amusing that you immediately upvote your own comments as soon as you post them lol dork
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 6:34 am
Posted on 7/31/23 at 6:53 am to tigerpierre
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Rankings are overrated….
What?
Teams that recruit the best win the most games 99/100 times.
So no rankings are not overrated. Keep telling yourself that though.
If rankings didn't matter why even keep star rankings? Just recruit 1* and 2* of guys that wanna be here and then develop them.
Because you know as well as I do they matter
Posted on 7/31/23 at 6:55 am to LSUTIGGERS22
Yeah, coach O did such a wonderful job building this roster with these elite recruiting classes and all. 
I remember O landing the #15 overall class one year.
I remember O landing the #15 overall class one year.
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 7:00 am
Posted on 7/31/23 at 6:58 am to LifeAquatic
Go ahead and call me whatever you like. Doesn’t change the fact that you came in here after OP said top 5 class incoming and said…..”guarantee you we will not be in the top 8. The numbers just straight up are not possible if we lose Wardell mack.”
That’s just not accurate if the last 3 cycles are any indication.
ETA:
What you actually said…..
Too bad you actually said you guarantee they won’t be a top 8. Don’t change up what you said to make it fit now. You guaranteed they wouldn’t make a top 8. That’s where I disagreed with you.
Nope, you said they likely end up 12th and guaranteed they wouldn’t be top 8. I did the math and you were wrong. It’s okay to be wrong sometimes.
Oh, and last of all, before you start your work week this Monday morning, frick you.
That’s just not accurate if the last 3 cycles are any indication.
ETA:
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Some other guy (to me): even without Mack, they’ll finish between 5-7. Me (to some other guy): without Mack, I bet you they will finish outside the top 8
What you actually said…..
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You want to bet me? I guarantee you we will not be in the top 8. The numbers just straight up are not possible if we lose Wardell mack.
Too bad you actually said you guarantee they won’t be a top 8. Don’t change up what you said to make it fit now. You guaranteed they wouldn’t make a top 8. That’s where I disagreed with you.
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You (to me): you’re wrong when you say landing all those guys would only give us a class score that would be 8th-10th last year. I added it up and they’d be 8th. So you’re wrong Me (to you): dude you literally just confirmed exactly what I said
Nope, you said they likely end up 12th and guaranteed they wouldn’t be top 8. I did the math and you were wrong. It’s okay to be wrong sometimes.
Oh, and last of all, before you start your work week this Monday morning, frick you.
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 7:09 am
Posted on 7/31/23 at 7:12 am to JiminyCricket
Top 5 is unlikely, as it would take almost the perfect storm of us landing, others missing, us getting bumps, others not or drops etc. Too much has to go right. That said, as much wringing as everyone has done(including me), for a down year in the state, and where we were start of summer, land our biggies and get in range of 5 and we are gold. Top 10 in a down year is normal. Grasping to stay in the top 15 isn't.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 7:19 am to lsufanva
Of course I can’t say exactly where everyone else will end up in this cycle, just saying that in recent history, LSU still does have a chance to end up in the score range that would typically fall in that 4-6 range.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 7:24 am to JiminyCricket
Of course I can’t say exactly where everyone else will end up in this cycle, just saying that in recent history, LSU still does have a chance to end up in the score range that would typically fall in that 4-6 range.
I say around 6 to 10 if we get the guy we are leading for and a few others.
I say around 6 to 10 if we get the guy we are leading for and a few others.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 7:26 am to boweswi05
I think 6 is likely and 5 is possible. Any higher would take some surprises.
Another note on all of this is the rankings team at 24/7. This cycle has the biggest disparity of rankings I can remember. 24/7 has guys with massive offer sheets and national rankings in the top 150 as mid level 3 stars. That’s skewing the numbers a lot too.
Another note on all of this is the rankings team at 24/7. This cycle has the biggest disparity of rankings I can remember. 24/7 has guys with massive offer sheets and national rankings in the top 150 as mid level 3 stars. That’s skewing the numbers a lot too.
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 7:31 am
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