re: The continued troubles of the Aggies

This whole court is out of order.

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This is pretty stupid. Chavis did nothing disloyal. We had a business agreement that he abided by. His contract didn't shackle him for life.

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He wasn't talking about LSU v. Chavis. He was talking about no loyalty from Chavis to his players, which is pretty accurate.

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He wasn't talking about LSU v. Chavis. He was talking about no loyalty from Chavis to his players, which is pretty accurate.

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Again, pretty stupid. It's a job. Coaches recruit players every year. If, as you seem to think, this implies a four year commitment to stay, then coaches could never change jobs.

Did Les Miles break commitments when he left Okie State? Saban when he left Mich State? If so, LSU can never hire an honorable coach unless he was a plumber or something.

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So anyone have any quotes from hamm on the aggy board? Im sure he is in full melt.

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Recruiting has become like politics unfortunately. I can remember when the recruiting was an unknown factor because it wasn't publicized at all and most fans of a school didn't know or care about the process.

Max and F. Davis figured out they could make some money on recruiting and it has exploded since especially with the advent of social media.

It will not change. Now the players are famous before they play a snap in CFB. The schools or the players can screw each other at anytime before signing day and even afterwards for the schools. It is what it is, and we as fans pay for the privilege.

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the answer is HELL NO to all three questions. If there is one profession where an individual should definitely not speak out about loyalty, it is the coaching profession

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With all due respect, you have ZERO way of knowing whether or not this is true... Sorry to rain on your parade

The answer is somewhere in the middle.

If it happens late and a team is harmed because there is not time to recruit other players, then the kid who backs out deserves all kinds of criticism. The school was reserving a spot for the player based on the commitment.

But, this is May. A&M isn't harmed other than than they will not get the kid himself. They are in exactly the same position they were in before their commitment. This is nothing more than sour grapes. They are paying the price for it, too.

Penrod, Chavis left LSU with still a year remaining on his contract..

Look if he doesn't want to honor that, that's his decision.. Just like if a recruit changes his mind.. But players did commit with him in mind to coach them and he ditched.

So coaches can't be too upset when a recruit changes his mind. Especially one that gives them time to explore options.

Like I said, last ditch effort is messed up.. Not what this kid did. It's not something to get bent out of shape over.. Or question a players integrity or loyalty. Life changes. It's not a true commitment until it's signed. We all know this. He is allowed a change of heart and it's more honorable the sooner it's done.

Perhaps they should change the verbal commitment verbiage..
(I'm not really being serious because we all know it's not binding)

Like I said the ones that are frustrating are Gunner Kiel (sp) and Fowler. And as I said, even Gunner is honest enough to admit he has no ill feelings towards Miles. But I'm not even upset with them because at the end of the day I wouldn't want them somewhere they didn't want to be.

See Franks, while frustrating at the time, still gave the coaches a heads up.. And they were all in with this guy.. But at least they were able to still sway and sign a good high character Qb.

And hey it all works out. Who knows how it pan out.

This is the process in which everyone understands. Then if they want they can just get rid of national signing day.. Have signature commitments on the spot. This might prevent early pledges.. But I don't like this idea. I think it's fine the way it is.

We shall see...