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re: Speedys Top 2
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:22 pm to SpookeyTiger
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:22 pm to SpookeyTiger
Don't assume this is a fact. One word: Auburn
What they did can change the recruiting landscape. Making assumptions about "locks" and teams having no chance because the had no offense or defense this season can be dangerous. Nobody wants to be taken for granted, including these kids being recruited by schools all over the country. We need to sell these guys based on what we have and what we are all about, and not what somebody else is or is not. And we need to recruit each one to the finish line, like we think we're in second place, and not like we think they are a "lock."
What they did can change the recruiting landscape. Making assumptions about "locks" and teams having no chance because the had no offense or defense this season can be dangerous. Nobody wants to be taken for granted, including these kids being recruited by schools all over the country. We need to sell these guys based on what we have and what we are all about, and not what somebody else is or is not. And we need to recruit each one to the finish line, like we think we're in second place, and not like we think they are a "lock."
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Posted on 12/21/13 at 3:31 pm to jmswp4
so much truth in this.Posted on 12/21/13 at 4:39 pm to tiggerthetooth
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At least A&M has an attractive offensive system.
Why is the A&M offense more attractive ?
We are the team with two 1000 yard WR's and a 1000 yard back.
These chuck and duck offenses like A&M are so over rated.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 4:49 pm to bopper50
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Why is the A&M offense more attractive ?
We are the team with two 1000 yard WR's and a 1000 yard back.
These chuck and duck offenses like A&M are so over rated.
Spot on. "Attractive" to me is success in the win column & TAM (even with JFF) have proven themselves mediocre at best. Power & balanced offenses will still be here after the flash & dash stuff is long forgotten.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 5:09 pm to H-Town Tiger
If Speedy wants to play this game and doesn't want to be part of this incredible class, then let him go to TAMU, UF, or wherever he wants to go. We have plenty of receivers and skill players (with or without Landry and OBJ). The guy is 5'10" 175. The days of the small WR's (think Duper and Clayton) are pretty much over anyway. We need big, physical receivers who can also block. I say reserve this scholarship for a big-time DL or OL.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 5:24 pm to bopper50
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quote: At least A&M has an attractive offensive system. Why is the A&M offense more attractive ? We are the team with two 1000 yard WR's and a 1000 yard back. These chuck and duck offenses like A&M are so over rated.
I'm not saying its "more" attractive, I'm saying it has its pros, so it's not a completely ridiculous thing for him to be interested in A&M. Again, not saying the A&M situation is better, just saying there are things for Speedy to be attracted to there.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 5:25 pm to NELA LSU Fan
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Why is the A&M offense more attractive ?
We are the team with two 1000 yard WR's and a 1000 yard back.
These chuck and duck offenses like A&M are so over rated.
A&M was 6th nationally in points scored and 7th in passing yds. I'm not exactly sure why a WR would care about having a 1000 yd rusher. Your opinion of the validity of spread offenses in irrelevant.
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"Attractive" to me is success in the win column & TAM (even with JFF) have proven themselves mediocre at best. Power & balanced offenses will still be here after the flash & dash stuff is long forgotten.
Good for you, when you get recruited as a 5* WR, you can decide to go to a primarily running based team.
You guys need to stop looking at it like fans. These are kids, a kid wants the ball. A kid thinks the team he is on will win because he and his team mates are good. Auburn does not exactly run a traditional offense and they are in the BCS CG for the 2nd time in 4 years. Fans of traditional FB can rag on teams that run spreads all you want, kids will still find it attractive.
Speedy has the talent to get to the next level no matter where he goes or what offense that team runs. Hopefully he picks LSU, he could do great things here, but saying you do get why A&M is attractive to him is on you.
This post was edited on 12/21/13 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 12/21/13 at 5:32 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Shepard was undrafted and Holiday was picked as a kick returner. So that's not exactly a ringing endorsement
He's on an NFL roster. It's about strength and conditioning development, and that's what WR's know they will get at LSU. Talent alone has not worked well for many guys, it takes hard work and competition to push you to that next level. Day in and day out Speedy can compete against future NFL db's in practice and make his NFL jump a lot smoother while receiving the best conditioning in the NCAA from Tommy Moffitt. Does A&M have a Moffitt? Do they have world class DB's to push against in practice and the off seasons like LSU?
Posted on 12/21/13 at 5:35 pm to tiggerthetooth
Attractive with Manzeil . When the back up was in he was terrible
Posted on 12/21/13 at 5:37 pm to TNTigerman
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We need big, physical receivers who can also block
Low center of gravity allows for better blocking skills, just FYI. Have you ever heard of Steve Smith? Jerry Rice? I think Speedy will be just fine. His size is not even close to being an issue, its an advantage in many ways that gives him more ability to cut and get YAC.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 5:38 pm to tiggerthetooth
Well said Tigger...
Posted on 12/21/13 at 5:46 pm to tiggerthetooth
Jerry Rice was 6'2" 205lbs. Try again.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 5:47 pm to Phil2012
Speedy's talents are different and rare. Correct big WR's are where it is at right now but if you have a solid big WR corps already then the addition of a Speedy type guy can reap huge rewards if you don't have to rely on him every play to be the goto WR.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 5:48 pm to H-Town Tiger
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A&M was 6th nationally in points scored and 7th in passing yds. I'm not exactly sure why a WR would care about having a 1000 yd rusher. Your opinion of the validity of spread offenses in irrelevant.
Yet you overlooked the biggest thing he wrote. Not very many teams have had 2 1000 yards receivers. They're the first SEC team in the last decade to do so. In Cam Cameron's first year.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 5:58 pm to TNTigerman
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If Speedy wants to play this game and doesn't want to be part of this incredible class, then let him go to TAMU, UF, or wherever he wants to go. We have plenty of receivers and skill players (with or without Landry and OBJ). The guy is 5'10" 175. The days of the small WR's (think Duper and Clayton) are pretty much over anyway. We need big, physical receivers who can also block. I say reserve this scholarship for a big-time DL or OL.
It does seem like we're lean on OL/DL and I really can't comment on how talented Noil is. But, an elusive guy whom an OC can get the ball to in space puts an enormous strain on defenses. Simply put, there's still a big role to play for this talent.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 6:02 pm to TNTigerman
Pump your brakes na!!!! We are talking about the best high school Athlete in world. Lets not get to big headed trust me Frank Wilson does not want loose Speedy Noil to A&M or anybody else, especially in the SEC
Posted on 12/21/13 at 6:09 pm to 504 SOULJA
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Lets not get to big headed trust me Frank Wilson does not want loose Speedy Noil to A&M or anybody else, especially in the SEC
I don't want to lose him either, I just hope he wants to be a Tiger!
Stay home Noil!!!!Posted on 12/21/13 at 6:12 pm to TNTigerman
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If Speedy wants to play this game and doesn't want to be part of this incredible class, then let him go to TAMU, UF, or wherever he wants to go. We have plenty of receivers and skill players (with or without Landry and OBJ). The guy is 5'10" 175. The days of the small WR's (think Duper and Clayton) are pretty much over anyway. We need big, physical receivers who can also block. I say reserve this scholarship for a big-time DL or OL.
This is totally unnecessary and ridiculous post.
Also a 5'8' 176lb receiver was just a top 10 pick in the NFL draft.
This post was edited on 12/21/13 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 12/21/13 at 6:19 pm to TNTigerman
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If Speedy wants to play this game and doesn't want to be part of this incredible class, then let him go to TAMU, UF, or wherever he wants to go. We have plenty of receivers and skill players (with or without Landry and OBJ). The guy is 5'10" 175. The days of the small WR's (think Duper and Clayton) are pretty much over anyway. We need big, physical receivers who can also block. I say reserve this scholarship for a big-time DL or OL.
You sir are a fool. Speedy is a Tavon Austin clone. Besides did you not see how small the back up RB was for ole miss and he destroyed us. Speedy isn't a RB, but he is going to get sweeps, read hand offs, screens and be a nightmare match up for LBs in the slot. He's the X-factor that will complete this offense
This post was edited on 12/21/13 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 12/21/13 at 6:27 pm to NOSTRODAMUS
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Jerry Rice was 6'2" 205lbs. Try again
And? That's not a tall receiver by today's standards. Jerry Rice became great off of his ability to run great routes and catch. He wasn't a tall, jumping and running athlete.
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