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re: Purdue QB is visiting LSU
Posted on 6/19/15 at 4:27 pm to ShortyRob
Posted on 6/19/15 at 4:27 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Miles has basically created ZERO room for QB recruiting error in the next 4 years which is crazy given the last several.
This actually couldn't be further from the truth. Miles is bringing in 1 QB a year, and each year that QB recruit seems to be getting better. You don't bring in a handful of QB recruits at once because you lose scholarships at other positions for guys who will just end up transferring out once they sit the bench for a year. Cam knows what he's doing. He's fixing things the right way.
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 4:33 pm to tlsu15
quote:
This actually couldn't be further from the truth.
Um. His best QB last year was one of the worst QBs in all of division 1 and the backup apparently couldn't get on the field.
The "one" QB you refer to this year is a complete and total project so counting him is a stretch.
No, you really shouldn't bring in a "handful" every year if you have demonstrated you can evaluate QBs worth a shite.
But, if the BEST QB you managed to recruit in the last 5 years is the worst QB in college football, you probably need to give yourself some room.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 5:13 pm to ShortyRob
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But, if the BEST QB you managed to recruit in the last 5 years is the worst QB in college football, you probably need to give yourself some room.
Mett wasn't even the worst QB in the NFL last year, much less college ball.
And the worst QB in Power 5 college football last year was easily Tyrone Swoops at Texas. But continue to spout off your bullshite as usual.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:41 pm to tlsu15
The point of the matter is this:
Why bring in someone who is no better than what we have now?
Cam and Les are smart enough to leave that guy alone. Golston from ND and Miller from Ohio State are both upgrades. Golston is at FLA State now.
Why bring in someone who is no better than what we have now?
Cam and Les are smart enough to leave that guy alone. Golston from ND and Miller from Ohio State are both upgrades. Golston is at FLA State now.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:42 pm to TigerNSac
quote:How would we know?
Why bring in someone who is no better than what we have now?
I mean, AJ was historically bad. And BH couldn't take the job from him!
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:49 pm to ShortyRob
Big 10 had a very down year and he did not do a good job minus all the excuses people are giving this guy. I do not see it, and he is not 4-star talent anymore.
Now there are people on the RANT saying that he will enroll at LSU this summer, according to DP. I do not know if that informatio has been confirmed.
Now there are people on the RANT saying that he will enroll at LSU this summer, according to DP. I do not know if that informatio has been confirmed.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:20 pm to TigerNSac
This kid is legit. Name me one top 300 guy that lined up next to this kid or blocked for him? Dude competed and did well in elite 11.. I've posted this twice but I'll say it again. Barton Simmons been covering a lot of qbs for a while and if he says this kid has Sunday talent I'll take that over a bunch of ranters who tbh doesn't know jack sh-- ... Some of these posters lmao. Ignorance is bliss..
Posted on 6/20/15 at 1:01 am to bayoubengalfan4life
Most of you are either children or morons. Etling is exactly what we need. A guy who can compete for and most likely win the starting job next season. If Harris can't beat out Jennings, so be it. You get two years to prove yourself in this league. This guy will have that same opportunity and Feleipe will after him.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 1:10 am to ezrulz
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A guy who can compete for and most likely win the starting job next season.
Jesus, he's most likely winning the starting job now? This is starting to make the Zach Lee overnight hype look tame.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 1:37 am to floridatiger420
Posted on 6/20/15 at 5:05 am to ShortyRob
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ShortyRob
What is your problem? The only contribution I have seen you make on this LSU board is to shite on the QB and Miles. Are you in any of the other threads about the other players we recruit, or is it that you love to focus on negativity at QB and maybe even live for it?
Seriously somebody, go read his post history on the recruiting board. He takes all the bad things about tRant and tries his best to kill off any good discussion with his "woe is me" attitude.
And also in the thread discussing how the Arkansas game would affect recruiting, well, it didn't effect it for bad like some people thought it would.
LINK
Look at some of the responses about getting WR recruits and QBs. LOL, when it's all said and done, we will have a top 3 position, 5 star QB and two 6'4+ top 100 recruit WRs. Hell, we had 4 WRs last year, two were 4 stars and we got a 5 star WR. In 2008 we went 8-5 and picked up the #2 recruiting class. In 2014 we went 8-5 and picked up the #5 recruiting class. We are projected to pick up the #1 recruiting class this year, or at least top 3. Recruits know the deal.
Those 2014 and 2015 classes will be the backbone of LSU's return to the top.
Fournette/Williams - 1500+ yards from scrimmage 14 total TDs
Dupre/Quinn - 600+ yards from scrimmage 5 total TDs
Harris - 600+ yards from scrimmage 9 total TDs
Adams/Godchaux - 100+ tackles 6.5 TFL 1.0 sack 1 FF
Posted on 6/20/15 at 5:33 am to ShortyRob
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But, if the BEST QB you managed to recruit in the last 5 years is the worst QB in college football, you probably need to give yourself some room.
Hate hyperbole. Did you know that Jennings had a higher QB rating last year than Hackenberg who was a 5 star can't miss NFL 1st rounder in high school QB? Against much better defenses? Or can we forget Florida's situation where Driskel was a 5 star QB with years of experience and Harris was highly rated as well? On the chart I'm looking at that goes to 100 players, there were at least 13 players with worse QB ratings than Jennings.
Would you really consider guys like Michael Brewer, Tyron Swoopes, Greyson Lambert, and CJ Brown better than Jennings? Jennings was bad yes, but he had no experience at any receiving spots. TEs couldn't catch most of the time, neither the fullbacks. Quinn dropped passes during the second half, Dural never developed past through it up and run under it routes and didn't attack the football, Dupre inconsistent hands, bad routes, and not physical enough. Add to the fact that the OL and run game was pretty stale up until the UF game (OOC patsies don't count), and he faced an uphill battle. Then you have knuckleheads going apeshit and expecting a true freshman with terrible accuracy, poor footwork, no knowledge of the pro style offense or operating under center, and just plain raw QB, to beat the experienced guy who had most of that.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 5:38 am to saintsfan22
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Jesus, he's most likely winning the starting job now? This is starting to make the Zach Lee overnight hype look tame.
It's as hilarious as the Greyson Lambert bs. Oh yeah, this guy that sucked at Virginia is going to all of a sudden beat out two guys at UGA. This guy at Purdue is going to all of a sudden win the starting job in 2016?
Oh, the guy that was garbage at Purdue can get better but not Jennings? Brandon Allen did get better after his first year, but Jennings can't? Some people even have Harris as a lost cause, are you serious?
This post was edited on 6/20/15 at 6:04 am
Posted on 6/20/15 at 5:44 am to floridatiger420
Can we just get a QB to thro for 220 a game and not turn the ball over?
Posted on 6/20/15 at 10:34 am to TampaTiger22
Amen.. Don't care who it is
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:27 am to Aussietigerfan
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Let's just give Harris a decent crack first before bringing in any transfers
It doesn't exactly work like that.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 12:20 pm to djrunner
If you are seeking a QB to throw over 200 yards a game, then the guy from Purdue is not the ONE! He completed passes for 200 yards or more four times out of his thirteen starts.
Why offer a scholarship to a guy that does not play like a four star recruit. He will be another Robert Bolden for the Tigers and holding a clipboard.
Here is the reality. F. Franks comes in next year and everyone will be excited. McMillian will continue to develop and the guy from Purdue will be a forgotten commodity, anyway.
LSU should focus that scholarship on recruiting a JUCO MLB, OT, or another position of need. Let's not fool ourselves, he is not a Mettenberg, Mauck or Flynn.
Les and Cam should offer a scholarship to a QB that is a legitimate upgrade; the guy from Purdue is not that kind of commodity. It is really amazing how people try to justified this guy's talent by showing video clips of his good plays. Sh@t, we can do that for Jennings and it does not prove a damn thing, does it?
Finally, college football transfers will continue to occur annually, I am quite sure if E. Golston and B. Miller became available earlier in the year, there could be more next year who would be worthwhile offering a scholarship.
Why offer a scholarship to a guy that does not play like a four star recruit. He will be another Robert Bolden for the Tigers and holding a clipboard.
Here is the reality. F. Franks comes in next year and everyone will be excited. McMillian will continue to develop and the guy from Purdue will be a forgotten commodity, anyway.
LSU should focus that scholarship on recruiting a JUCO MLB, OT, or another position of need. Let's not fool ourselves, he is not a Mettenberg, Mauck or Flynn.
Les and Cam should offer a scholarship to a QB that is a legitimate upgrade; the guy from Purdue is not that kind of commodity. It is really amazing how people try to justified this guy's talent by showing video clips of his good plays. Sh@t, we can do that for Jennings and it does not prove a damn thing, does it?
Finally, college football transfers will continue to occur annually, I am quite sure if E. Golston and B. Miller became available earlier in the year, there could be more next year who would be worthwhile offering a scholarship.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 12:24 pm to TigerNSac
Wrong
Posted on 6/21/15 at 12:44 pm to TigerNSac
I can't understand why anyone would be opposed to this. Let's assume, for a moment, he isn't an upgrade. We have 1 legit qb right now, and 1 that may end up in jail. We need depth.
Second reason is this. If he was a talent in high school, he is a talent now. Changing situations, coaches, and teammates can bring out a totally different player. Look no further than mett. On the pro level what about brees, or many other qbs. Scheme makes a huge difference too!
It's hard to take some of you seriously when out of one side of your mouth you are saying take every high school qb who will enroll here, and out of other side of mouth not being excited about this visit!
Second reason is this. If he was a talent in high school, he is a talent now. Changing situations, coaches, and teammates can bring out a totally different player. Look no further than mett. On the pro level what about brees, or many other qbs. Scheme makes a huge difference too!
It's hard to take some of you seriously when out of one side of your mouth you are saying take every high school qb who will enroll here, and out of other side of mouth not being excited about this visit!
Posted on 6/21/15 at 12:49 pm to Bige11
We don't have ANY legit QB right now. Harris hasn't proven himself any more than Jennings has.
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