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re: LSU will have one of the lowest stipends for athletes in SEC

Posted on 8/23/15 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by AnotherRound
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 3:33 pm to
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I20goon


.... so you're saying there's an issue with the large stipend UA....
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 3:43 pm to
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would you be in favor of LSU "taking advantage" of the new rule?


I don't really care, but clearly you do.

So with that being said, instead of worrying about the sec office, or alabama, or auburn, or Mississippi st, why don't you focus all this ignorant and misguided energy you have towards the Lsu financial aid office as others have tried to explain to you.

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Also if the SEC offices weren't in Birmingham but were instead in BR don't you think that maybe LSU would have gone with the highest amount and Alabama may have been a bit more leary of claiming to have the highest out of pocket expenses for athletes in the country.


And there it is again. You don't want everyone to see you're a fricking moron? Then quit showing everyone that you're a fricking moron.
This post was edited on 8/23/15 at 3:48 pm
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 4:07 pm to
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I don't really care, but clearly you do.


really? you don't really care that Bama is paying their players more than LSU is.

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So with that being said, instead of worrying about the sec office, or alabama, or auburn, or Mississippi st, why don't you focus all this ignorant and misguided energy you have towards the Lsu financial aid office as others have tried to explain to you.


You really don't think that if LSU (or any school other than the two Alabama schools) had chosen to be the highest paying schools (by a good bit) that the SEC headquarters wouldn't have had something to say about it? What about the NCAA, do you think they would be cool with it if it was LSU? or sports center, the only way I even knew about this was a small article in the Times-Picayune this morning.

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You don't want everyone to see you're a fricking moron?


whether people see if I'm a fricking moron or not doesn't really matter to me. I only care about LSU football (and LSU basketball, baseball and Saints to some extent and a few other sports). Whether I am a moron is not really the issue here.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 4:12 pm to
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I don't really care


so your not a LSU fan. You don't care that Bama and Auburn just gained another recruiting advantage over the rest of the SEC and LSU in particular. Then get off the board.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 4:49 pm to
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Since there is no "rule violation", all this is pre-approved for lack of a better term, I say LSU should take full advantage of it.


I 100% agree. If Bama and Auburn made their stipend come up to $5300 then we should re calculate ours to make it come up to the same exact amount. If the NCAA comes after us over it and not those two then we should just go a head and withdraw from the NCAA as it is obvious that they are stacking the deck against us and in favor of their favorites. Kudos to Auburn for having the balls to match Bama on this. Anyone in their right mind (as I am a moron) really believe that Alabama athletes have the highest out of pocket expenses of any athletes at any school in the country . Your going to tell me that Bama hasn't been taking care of it's football players and it's been costing their football players more to attend there than at any other other programs. Bama players don't get all the meals that other programs provide. Bama players have to pay for their own laptops but other programs players don't. Bama players get crummy dorm rooms and have to pay their own utilities. Bama players are given crummy beater cars and minimum wage jobs by the alumni but other schools alumni provide brand new SUV's and $25 an hour jobs, etc. What a joke. What a miracle they have been getting consensus #1 recruiting classes year after year against such long odds they have to overcome.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19076 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 5:13 pm to
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HOw in the hell can Bama claim that Tusculousa is the highest cost of living city in the country and no one blink an eye.


Cost a lot of money to pipe sunshine to that shithole... problem is they are double dipping with public assistance too.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:01 pm to
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You really don't think that if LSU (or any school other than the two Alabama schools)


Wait, now you care about auburn too? I thought it was Tuscaloosa the sec offices were located in? Or do they have a 3rd set of offices in auburn, al as well?

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that the SEC headquarters wouldn't have had something to say about it?


No I don't. Because for the 3rd time, the SEC has nothing to do with the cost of attendance amounts that the school's themselves determined in attempt to follow a new NCAA rule.

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What about the NCAA, do you think they would be cool with it if it was LSU?


No, I really don't. They don't seem to care about florida at, or Wisconsin or penn st, so why would I think they'd care about Lsu?

Better yet, what evidence do you have to support this? And by evidence, I mean more than the tired 'everyone hates Lsu' and 'everyone lets alabama(and apparently now auburn?) cheat'

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or sports center


Oh for fricks sake.

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the only way I even knew about this was a small article in the Times-Picayune this morning.


So the SEC, the NCAA and sportscenter are at fault for your ignorance on this topic?

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whether people see if I'm a fricking moron or not doesn't really matter to me. I only care about LSU football (and LSU basketball, baseball and Saints to some extent and a few other sports). Whether I am a moron is not really the issue here.


Your first responses to me and the guy that posted after me in this thread clearly indicate otherwise
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:56 pm to
Us government determines cost of living, they give basic housing allowances to military members based off of this. Now I could see Nashville having a noticeably higher one than br, but no way Tuscaloosa does.

BAH
35487 (bama): $960. per month
70808 (lsu) : $1100 per month

This evaluates property/rent, food and leisure, the whole nine yards.

If every student athlete is on scholarship what could be a reason to pay a higher stipend in Tuscaloosa than BR? As the stipend is for their cost of living lol

Edit: that extra 1500 is a big dollar amount for 18 yr old kids. Some extra shoes/videos games and so on. That 1500 is actually a damn top of the line 60 inch samsung for their dorm room per player... shite I'd even love 1500 to play around with right now.
This post was edited on 8/23/15 at 7:50 pm
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11004 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:56 pm to
You are not a LSU fan, why are you on our board?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66609 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 7:08 pm to
its crazy that they let schools come up with this.

Sure some cities are more expensive but that is a factor every student has to deal with.

The NCAA is just letting school pay players at this point
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 7:20 pm to
Obviously you're frickin lost smart guy.Why don't you take that large brain of yours to the Bama board with the rest of the intellectuals.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12906 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 8:21 pm to
I think there's a point being lost in all this Bama & Auburn, AND Tennessee, are all top-5 in the COUNTRY. That's what... 122 teams/cities?

Doesn't past the smell test. Knoxville, some village on the plains, and Tuscaloosa are the most costly places (FBS I) in the country to go to school?

Leaving the Ivy League out of it... USC/UCLA in LA? How about Boston College or UMass? I lived up there for a while. No way in hell they are cheaper schools and areas. Looks like what they did was calculate travel (daily? weekly? semester?) for out of state students back to their parents town of home residence.

So am I saying there is something wrong with Bama's (and AU and UTn) stipend calculation? Yeah, if "wrong" is on par with everyone else in the country. Are there any rules violated? No. So from that point of view there is nothing wrong with it.

Is it counting cards (you use the advantage cuz you have the ability) where there are consequences even though it's not really cheating? No.

Is is like a good looking woman using her looks to get a job over EQUAL candidates? Yep. Not against the law.

ETA: let's not forget about Moo State
This post was edited on 8/23/15 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 8:58 pm to
The NCAA absolutely needs to make these standards based on set criteria, not letting the schools decide what they think they deserve...

Why don't they let the schools tell them how many scholarships and evaluation hours/phone calls they think they deserve while they are at it.

There are many legit cost of living assessments they can use, Knoxville/Tuscaloosa would be lucky to be near the middle of the pack much less top 5 among cities in the US with D1 programs.
Posted by Bige11
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2014
1509 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 9:39 pm to
If bama can get over $5000.00 for their players, then we can too. If we don't, it's for one of two reasons:
1) our financial department sucks, and needs to get their numbers together and make a better presentation to the ncaa
2) we don't want to pay EVERY athlete that much more.
You know maybe the crew at lsu just figures we will give a fair stipend, and offer a chance to play at the greatest school in the greatest atmosphere on any stage. If that is their approach, I salute them.
Posted by TigerWerm
7th circle of hell
Member since Nov 2005
5788 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 9:47 pm to
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should just be one set amount, $5000 perhaps, for all NCAA schools to take the monkey business out of it.


motherfricking THIS

although that would make waaaay too much sense for the NCAA
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3736 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 10:06 pm to
Where does Hawaii rank in all of this ?
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 10:14 pm to
holy shite that list is comical. there's no way these stipends stick right? not having a single school in the northeast or California has to be a huge red flag to the NCAA that these schools are inflating their calculations
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 1:36 pm to
It's ridiculous. The SEC is ruining college football.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 5:57 pm to
One of the factors is transportation costs. Baton Rouge has an airport that lowers the cost of transportation compared to SEC schools in towns that do not have convenient air travel.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 8:07 pm to
Knoxville regional airport is larger than baton rouge metro

didn't bother looking up the rest
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