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re: LSU will have one of the lowest stipends for athletes in SEC

Posted on 8/23/15 at 11:59 am to
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 11:59 am to
HOw in the hell can Bama claim that Tusculousa is the highest cost of living city in the country and no one blink an eye. What makes the cost of attending Auburn and Bama so much higher than other schools in the country?
This a huge edge in recruiting that the rest of the SEC just seems to be cool with?
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 12:01 pm to
LOL @ it costing like 35% more to live in Tuscaloosa or Auburn of Baton Rouge. horseshite.
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 12:07 pm to
So college football is now officially a pro sport!
Posted by OU812
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 12:13 pm to
Does this have anything to do with LSU having to give the university $8 million a year, when all other universities don't?
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 12:16 pm to
what does it cost anyway? They get tuition, room and board. Aren't test books and supplies also paid for? Is the cost of an old beater car that much more in Tuscolousa. You can get a much nicer one with $10,600 (2 years stipend at Bama) vs $7,600 (2 years stipend at LSU). Do clothes cost more in Tuscolousa? Their Walmart doesn't have everyday low prices? WTF?
Posted by LSU GrandDad
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 12:27 pm to
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should just be one set amount, $5000 perhaps, for all NCAA schools to take the monkey business out of it.


your solution sir is just too damn simple and uses too much damn common sense. what the hell is wrong with you?
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 12:50 pm to
But then Bama wouldn't have an advantage.
Posted by I20goon
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 1:04 pm to
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The Cost of Attendance is computed by the Financial Aid Office and the Athletic Depts are not allowed to influence this.


Ummmmm, who is going to enforce this? The NCAA?
This is something very easily verifiable. Hell, much of this information is on websites (for the CoL for the town/city/area) plus the rest of it is even in brochures.

But will it be verified? Doubtful. If anything schools would be asked to re-submit numbers without independent verification.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 1:10 pm to
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SEC offices in Tuscoulousa so it comes as no surprise that LSU gets f'ed again by the SEC. How much more blatant can you get in showing favoritism to one school and outright cheating.


Instead of typing these lines, you could've just put "I'm a fricking moron with no idea what I'm talking about."

It would've helped people reach that obvious conclusion much faster.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 1:39 pm to
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Open Your Eyes


why don't you 'open your eyes' you fricking moron. Maybe all my facts aren't straight but my message is dead on.
Posted by Oizers
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 1:44 pm to
I will give the benefit of the doubt to the school and not get emotional over assumptions made on a message board.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 2:00 pm to
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will give the benefit of the doubt to the school


really, you give the benefit of the doubt to Alabama and it's sleazy HC not seeking a competive advantage?

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Oizers
why don't you join 'open your eyes' in town of Dumbsville, USA
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 2:00 pm to
I'm almost positive that lsu pays less because they offer more meals to the players than anyone else in the sec. Fwiw...
Posted by I20goon
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 2:31 pm to

Overall the cost of living (unverified info, quick search) is only about 5% more in Tuscalooser. Their stipend is about 39% more.

There's all those hidden costs, books & materials, etc. Probably not enough for that other 34%.

Me, if I'm wanting to skew it for athletes the easiest way is to include the cost of tutors and maybe even "non-emergency" medical costs. Like the student-worker pay for tutoring even though that isn't paid by the athlete based on the theory that somebody is paying for it.

I do find it strange that it's both AL schools. There might be some state thing there. Then again, for all we know the school pays a luxury tax to the state for gate & concession revenue, and they just added that. Who knows. You would figure Vandy would be the highest.

ETA: This CBS Sports does explain some of it. So tuition, dorms, etc. are included in the calculation. So the stipend is indeed being based off of items that are not out-of-pocket for a scholarship attendee.
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University spokesperson Deborah Lane explained the reason for the change. She said the school adjusted transportation costs "to more accurately reflect the growth in our out-of-state enrollment and the increased cost of travel for them."

"UA determined that the Department of Education allowed transportation costs to and from the student's permanent residence and the campus, rather than just to and from their local residence to class," Lane told AL.com.
This post was edited on 8/23/15 at 2:42 pm
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 2:42 pm to
I say to recruits that you go to Bama or Auburn and get less for more but come down to Baton Rouge and get more for less. Simple.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 3:04 pm to
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say to recruits that you go to Bama or Auburn and get less for more but come down to Baton Rouge and get more for less. Simple.


see how that works out for you. Should just be a flat rate so that all schools are on more equal footing and there aren't these shananigans going on.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 3:05 pm to
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why don't you 'open your eyes' you fricking moron. Maybe all my facts aren't straight but my message is dead on.


Maybe?

Your facts are "straight"?

Your first reaction to this situation is to blame the sec office, which is located in Birmingham not Tuscaloosa, for something the school's themselves determined, due to a new rule introduced by the NCAA, not the sec. You then proceeded to accuse them of showing favoritism and cheating with something they literally had nothing to do with.

And now you are pissed at alabama because they figured out a way to take advantage of the new rule better than Lsu did?

In even the most generous interpretation, you're 0/2 in assigning blame here. But you keep on keeping on dumbass
This post was edited on 8/23/15 at 3:08 pm
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 3:11 pm to
If there are no consequences we should go to whatever they are paying then add $2000 to it. Would really boost recruiting and maybe we could swing some #1 recruiting classes.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 8/23/15 at 3:24 pm to
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And now you are pissed at alabama because they figured out a way to take advantage of the new rule better than Lsu did?



would you be in favor of LSU "taking advantage" of the new rule? Or should we just get f'ed and lose out on recruits due to not paying them as much as Alabama and Auburn do. You really think that how much a school pays recruits is not going to be a factor in their decision if a recruit is on the fence as to which school to go to? Also if the SEC offices weren't in Birmingham but were instead in BR don't you think that maybe LSU would have gone with the highest amount and Alabama may have been a bit more leary of claiming to have the highest out of pocket expenses for athletes in the country.
This post was edited on 8/23/15 at 3:30 pm
Posted by I20goon
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/23/15 at 3:29 pm to
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would you be in favor of LSU "taking advantage" of the new rule? Or should we just get f'ed and lose out on recruits due to not paying them as much as Alabama and Auburn do. You really think that how much a school pays recruits is not going to be a factor in their decision if a recruit is on the fence as to which school to go to?
Since there is no "rule violation", all this is pre-approved for lack of a better term, I say LSU should take full advantage of it. For example, if there's a kid from India add his travel to and from Pune to the "total cost of attendance" and roll with it. Those meals LSU provides that Refield mentioned, add the cost of the food, the servers, the chef(s), even the napkins and table cloth to it. Instead of it reducing the cost to the athlete, on papers show it as an increase.

Go for it.
This post was edited on 8/23/15 at 3:31 pm
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