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Game Manager at Quarterback
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:43 pm
During SEC media day, Les Miles stated he wanted a "Game Manager". The problem with this is the Quarterbacks that LSU has recruited have been Athletes. When I think of game managers I think of Matt Flynn. He managed the game, didn't turnover the ball and got the ball to the receivers. This is not Jennings or Harris' type of offense. Jennings is a read option QB and Harris is a spread QB. I believe LSU needs to recruit QB's like Flynn, Etling, or the one I felt that got away Rettig. I hope in the future LSU recruit quarterbacks that fit our system, not the best athlete
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Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:54 pm to edsimms2000
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or the one I felt that got away Rettig.
for the record Rettig was an extreme spread guy...
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:00 pm to edsimms2000
Saw replay of 3 OT loss to Ark from 07 championship year and wonder how many would be surprised that Flynn had 14 TD and 10 INTs going into that game. ...
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:05 pm to edsimms2000
Piss on a game manager. We need QB'S that will make plays either by being scripted or by improvising. Just go out there and MAKE PLAYS.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:21 pm to AmazinGrace
I agree with you 100%, but the way we use our quarterbacks, we need to recruit to the scheme. I personally believe that Brandon Harris can lead LSU to double digit wins this here and a national championship this year and next year. But he won't ever reach his potential unless Les release the shackles off of him
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:24 pm to edsimms2000
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I believe LSU needs to recruit QB's like Flynn, Etling, or the one I felt that got away Rettig. I hope in the future LSU recruit quarterbacks that fit our system, not the best athlete
Too easy
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:32 pm to KingofthePoint
Our QB's in 03 and 07 were very athletic. You simply get to caught up in titles like dual threat. Those guys were game managers because of play calling and experience not because of their skill set. I get it you want a white guy. So much that you threw in Rettig when he is as much of a spread QB's as any we have recruited.
This post was edited on 7/18/15 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:32 pm to KingofthePoint
Every QB needs to be able to manage the game. The most successful QB's are the ones who understand down and distance, clock management, and field position. QB's at their best manage games!
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:42 pm to OGtigerfan73
No I want the best quarterback that gives us the best chance to win under our offensive system. It's a reason since 2008, our quarterback situation has been near the bottom year in and out except for Zach's senior year. Also I stated that Harris can be one of the best quarterbacks at LSU if we let him loose. As far wanting a white quarterback, I am black, played quarterback at Edna Karr and in college. I also coached Jeremy Johnson in high (auburn starting Qb). This is not about race. It's about having a good quarterback under center that can throw better than 48% in the SEC
This post was edited on 7/18/15 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:59 pm to edsimms2000
Flynn threw 11 interceptions and had a 3 int game in '07. While he was a "Game Manager", he also turned it over a lot!
Posted on 7/18/15 at 8:00 pm to edsimms2000
Well that is egg on my face ha. I still disagree with your premise but should probably wait before I make snap judgments.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 8:03 pm to edsimms2000
Rettig is losing the starting QB battle at Rutgers. He's not exactly lighting things up there. There's probably a good reason he "got away."
This post was edited on 7/18/15 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 7/18/15 at 8:08 pm to SHBlake79
That's my point. Flynn made plenty of mistakes and used his feet plenty. Mauck was a straight up dual threat who they reigned in with play calling. I wouldn't call Russell a game manager and he put up two seasons as good or better than Flynn's senior season. That's individually and as a team since they had the same record with Russell putting up better numbers and not having nearly as bad loses. I'm just saying I don't think it's who we are recruiting I think it is play calling and and the way we handle our QB's that has hurt the offense.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 9:09 pm to edsimms2000
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During SEC media day, Les Miles stated he wanted a "Game Manager". The problem with this is the Quarterbacks that LSU has recruited have been Athletes. When I think of game managers I think of Matt Flynn. He managed the game, didn't turnover the ball and got the ball to the receivers. This is not Jennings or Harris' type of offense. Jennings is a read option QB and Harris is a spread QB. I believe LSU needs to recruit QB's like Flynn, Etling, or the one I felt that got away Rettig. I hope in the future LSU recruit quarterbacks that fit our system, not the best athlete
Rettig was definitely in a spread system and if you look at Etling he was shotgun 4 wide throughout his highlights. Jennings wasn't read option, he was a dual threat QB that actually made it to the Elite 11 Finals (on his passing abilities) and was the only QB in his region to make it to the finals. However, getting to the Finals doesn't make you a good college QB.
Matt Flynn wasn't some crazy athlete, but he did run the ball, a hundred times his senior year at LSU to be exact. No, Flynn was coached a lot longer and had very experienced receivers. Jennings as a senior will be much better than he was last year.
Harris was in a spread and very raw, but his talent was too good to just let go. Let's let Cam work his magic. Cam is the QB coach and looking for QBs with A) a big arm B) 'some' athleticism. He'll modify his offense this year if Harris is playing. A lot more spread and option concepts.
This post was edited on 7/18/15 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 7/18/15 at 9:13 pm to edsimms2000
I'm guessing you graduated in 2000?
Posted on 7/18/15 at 9:15 pm to edsimms2000
First I must say I don't know what Miles means by game manager. A manager is someone who is in who has control or dictates direction. I am sure that the coaches are not going to give control of the game to the QB. I cringe every time I hear him say that because it seems as though we don't expect the QB to be the difference maker on the field. In pro football the QB is the highest paid player on the field because he is the biggest difference maker on so many teams. It sounds like we don't want one of those kind of Qb's. OUCH
Posted on 7/18/15 at 10:08 pm to TheWalrus
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Rettig is losing the starting QB battle at Rutgers. He's not exactly lighting things up there. There's probably a good reason he "got away."
EXACTLY. I have to seriously question if the OP has ever seen Rettig throw a pass in real life. He made Jennings look near elite... Rettig's motion looked like he was throwing a shot-put or trying to throw a knuckleball pitch with a football, he would wind up and push the ball through the air rather than "pass" it. It was not pretty. That is what I saw at the Spring Game in person 2 years ago.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 10:15 pm to OGtigerfan73
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Mauck was a straight up dual threat who they reigned in with play calling.
Only because of injury... Not because of style of play. Mauck's true style of play is what helped us win the 2001 SEC-CG after Ro went down due to injury himself.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 10:43 pm to alumni95
Oh I agree even though I think injury and play calling are connected there. We are on the same side. These guys were not game managers type QB's when we recruited them. They were similar to the guys we have now during their recruitment.
This post was edited on 7/18/15 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 7/18/15 at 11:29 pm to alumni95
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Ro went down due to injury himself.
Ro going off against Illinois in the Sugarbowl that year is one of my favorite memories as a young LSU fan.
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