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re: Chris Allen will officially visit LSU this weekend
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:16 am to DowntownDBrown
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:16 am to DowntownDBrown
I said it before and I'll say it again. O will reel Allen in!!!
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Posted on 1/14/17 at 8:01 am to LSU Patrick
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. Is he still visiting Bama after?
I would think so. This is no different from the past few years. I think its a gesture on his part because he lives next door. But in the end it may be like before and that is he had to clear this with Saban because Saban knows no one turns him down after their commitment.
In the end even if Allen wanted to change to LSU I think he would have to be a man to tell Saban otherwise. And I think that most of these kids are intimidated too much by Saban to do so.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 8:25 am to Tiger in NY
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Bama boards saying they just flipped 4* LB VanDarius Cowan from FSU. Does this help with Allen, or is it indicative that Saban knows they aren't getting Allen?
Probably doesn't matter. Nick will sign 10 LBs if it means keeping LSU from getting them.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 8:25 am to catnip
Sabah is an a-hole who cares about no one but himself
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 8:28 am
Posted on 1/14/17 at 8:26 am to slapahoe
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So why go on this trip? wonder how much recruiting for Bama he smith and Harris will be doing this wknd?
I don't believe the poster you replied to was referring to the guy you think he was referring to.
If I am correct, he was talking about the guy already committed that someone thought they were stealing from FSU - NOT ALLEN.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 10:31 am to FightinTiga
Saban is a football coach. He is not interested in being nice or liked. He is driven to dominate. I can respect that. What drives me crazy is that no one (or very few) seemingly want to beat him. What has happened to the spirit of competition? If he's the best, then that's the very person I want to play against.
If Allen flips from Bama it won't even be a blip on their radar. He's not going to be a difference maker there period. He could here. He could be part of the team that dethroned Saban.
If Allen flips from Bama it won't even be a blip on their radar. He's not going to be a difference maker there period. He could here. He could be part of the team that dethroned Saban.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:06 am to LSU Patrick
If germans, mea culpa, but I read somewhere that bama has a ton of LB's, 4 & 5 stars, on their roster already, many only sophs.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:26 pm to Crawfish Anytime
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If LSU doesn't get Allen to flip this weekend and cancel his visit to Alabama, he's going to the Tide.
Hate to agree, but this is true.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:58 pm to catnip
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But in the end it may be like before and that is he had to clear this with Saban because Saban knows no one turns him down after their commitment.
In the end even if Allen wanted to change to LSU I think he would have to be a man to tell Saban otherwise. And I think that most of these kids are intimidated too much by Saban to do so.
Whoa, man-- ease up on trying to turn Saban into some sort of deity. Sure, he's a good coach, but he still loses games and he still loses recruits he wants every year. For every Dylan Moses that spurns LSU for Bama, there's a JaCoby Stevens who spurns Bama for LSU. Every year LSU wins some recruiting battles against Bama and Saban, even if there's always one or two that get away. And plenty of kids spurn Bama and LSU for other schools as well. That's the way it goes. So, don't think that Saban possesses some mystical ability that makes it impossible for kids to turn him down.
Probably the only real advantage he has in recruiting is a better ground game, with more analysts and boosters, etc. breaking down film, learning about recruits, etc. That and a more aggressive recruiting approach: from casting a wider net and signing more players to processing / cutting underclass player more aggressively than other schools to make room for new ones. I give Saban credit for being clever enough to capitalize on some questionable tactics for a few years, but I think that advantage is starting to diminish and he doesn't strike me as some imposing figure that people can't resist.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:50 pm to moock blackjack
The solution...the Dodge dealership in Lafayette will be having a raffle for a custom PURPLE Hellcat next Saturday at 5pm. Everyone who test drives the car gets a ticket in the raffle but you must be present to win. Only one ticket will be in the box...
Posted on 1/15/17 at 6:11 am to LSUcajun77
That should be the official "let's ride" photo!
Posted on 1/15/17 at 7:26 am to epbart
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Whoa, man-- ease up on trying to turn Saban into some sort of deity. Sure, he's a good coach, but he still loses games and he still loses recruits he wants every year. For every Dylan Moses that spurns LSU for Bama, there's a JaCoby Stevens who spurns Bama for LSU. Every year LSU wins some recruiting battles against Bama and Saban, even if there's always one or two that get away. And plenty of kids spurn Bama and LSU for other schools as well. That's the way it goes. So, don't think that Saban possesses some mystical ability that makes it impossible for kids to turn him down. Probably the only real advantage he has in recruiting is a better ground game, with more analysts and boosters, etc. breaking down film, learning about recruits, etc. That and a more aggressive recruiting approach: from casting a wider net and signing more players to processing / cutting underclass player more aggressively than other schools to make room for new ones. I give Saban credit for being clever enough to capitalize on some questionable tactics for a few years, but I think that advantage is starting to diminish and he doesn't strike me as some imposing figure that people can't resist.
Yeah but for the spit or swallow crowd they can't handle the truth. To them Saban is some other worldly evil supreme being that sitteth at the right hand of the prince of darkness and only answers the day he is damned. If everyone wanted to play for him, Stevens and Ingraham for sure would be in their class and at least two upcoming draft picks who played at LSU (LF7 and Beck) would have been Gumps. Just a few of countless examples. Stevens did a good job of telling Saban and the Crimson demons to F8LL* off in the end.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 8:30 am to epbart
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ease up on trying to turn Saban into some sort of deity. Sure, he's a good coach, but he still loses games and he still loses recruits he wants every year.
He has had the 1 recruiting class for I believe the last 5 years and I would be surprised if he did not again.
So all what you said sounds good, but he is the best of the best.
The numbers I gave you back up my point.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 8:37 am to LSUbest
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That should be the official "let's ride" photo!
I appreciate that, but there's already an official "let's ride" gif and it'll never change....
Posted on 1/15/17 at 4:09 pm to cj2002
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He has had the 1 recruiting class for I believe the last 5 years and I would be surprised if he did not again.
No argument from me.
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So all what you said sounds good, but he is the best of the best.
The numbers I gave you back up my point.
Alabama gave him unheard of money at the time, gave him unprecedented control over the program, and funded a lot of background operations like his shadow staff that weren't illegal, but are a break from protocol that most colleges would allow. I gave him full credit for taking advantage of the opportunity.
Your point doesn't discredit my point. Yes, he's had several number one classes. It's as much or more to do with his ground game: shadow staff, things like hiring Landon Collins' girlfriend, new cars, etc. The Yahoo investigation from a couple years back was a whole level worse than that (fwiw, you can bet the bama grad running LSU's compliance dept would have hammered the LSU staff for those infractions... at bama, it was completely swept under the rug).
... But the man himself is not some god that kids can't say no to. Plenty do every year. Personally, I've never found Saban to be very charming and he's not that great of a speaker. He's more like a rote salesman coming in following SPIN selling or some similar system by the numbers. It works for him. I'm not discounting that. But I'm saying a good bit of his statistical dominance in recruiting is due to the behind the scenes support Bama's admin and boosters give him. He's a good-- even great-- coach. But that's it.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 4:55 pm to epbart
I've always thought Saban was a very good coach, but put him on a level playing field resource wise and he's one of many good coaches out there.
He's no deity to me.
He's no deity to me.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 7:30 pm to moock blackjack
Sorry it's not going to happen. Allen is Bama bound.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 7:53 pm to epbart
quote:Wait wait there's a Bama grad running the compliance department at LSU? If so, then we've set ourselves up to never beat Bama at anything when it comes to recruiting, haven't we? That's fricking ridiculous if true.
you can bet the bama grad running LSU's compliance dept would have hammered the LSU staff for those infractions... at bama, it was completely swept under the rug).
Posted on 1/15/17 at 8:01 pm to Ironhead985
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Wait wait there's a Bama grad running the compliance department at LSU? If so, then we've set ourselves up to never beat Bama at anything when it comes to recruiting, haven't we? That's fricking ridiculous if true.
This is the first I've heard of this, but if true, you are right...it IS fricking ridiculous.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 8:06 pm to TigersFan64
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Wait wait there's a Bama grad running the compliance department at LSU
Shirley, you can't be serious.
This post was edited on 1/15/17 at 8:07 pm
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