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Baseball recruiting gurus: question about what's to come?
Posted on 6/10/12 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 6/10/12 at 10:56 pm
Anyone who watched this weekend knows that our hitting was the reason for losing, but I feel like PM will get that taken care of by either hiring someone else
It was glaring that we are missing that Mahtook, Mitchell, and to some extent Landry presence in the outfield. Our guys seem slow and unathletic. What does the future look like in those positions?!
Also, what are our options at 3rd and SS now?!
It was glaring that we are missing that Mahtook, Mitchell, and to some extent Landry presence in the outfield. Our guys seem slow and unathletic. What does the future look like in those positions?!
Also, what are our options at 3rd and SS now?!
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:00 pm to Pleasenewdc
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Also, what are our options at 3rd and SS now?!
this is my biggest question
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:01 pm to Pleasenewdc
Hayden Jennings (Evangel) took the MLB money, but Andrew Stevenson (STM) is legit too, left handed bat with speed for the OF. We will get Sciambra back too hopefully.
Speed and defense in the OF is HUGE now with the BBCOR bats and how the game is played, and I thought that showed in this series.
Speed and defense in the OF is HUGE now with the BBCOR bats and how the game is played, and I thought that showed in this series.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:05 pm to TigerAlum93
Jacoby at SS or third, bregman at SS or 2nd, not sure on 2nd if those two cover the left
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:19 pm to RATeamWannabe
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Jacoby at SS or third, bregman at SS or 2nd, not sure on 2nd if those two cover the left
That's what I was thinking. I just hope we get a speedster in center and RF. Like a Marzili (sp?) type.
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:53 pm to Pleasenewdc
Andrew Stevenson and Sean McMullen, along with Sciambra coming back, really ought to fix the problem in the outfield. They can both run and they're both very good hitters. Having to start Arby Fields and his ridiculous .203 batting average ought to be a thing of the past next year.
Third base is a real issue. The most important thing Mainieri could do is to find a kid like Carmona from Stony Brook in a JUCO somewhere. We have to get some offense from that position.
But Sanchez has to go. This weekend made that obvious. LSU hit just .285 as a team and only two of the regulars hit above .300 for the season. Crappy bats or no, that's inexcusable.
Third base is a real issue. The most important thing Mainieri could do is to find a kid like Carmona from Stony Brook in a JUCO somewhere. We have to get some offense from that position.
But Sanchez has to go. This weekend made that obvious. LSU hit just .285 as a team and only two of the regulars hit above .300 for the season. Crappy bats or no, that's inexcusable.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:02 am to Pleasenewdc
I've heard Moore will get a shot at third. JJ and Berg. at short and 2nd.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:04 am to macaoidh
Yeah I am not a HUGE baseball fan and I understand why most colleges don't have three guys in the outfield hitting 350. But this is LSU! Seems like we should have three guys that can swing a bat like a pro at each of the outfield positions all the time.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:05 am to macaoidh
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Having to start Arby Fields and his ridiculous .203 batting average ought to be a thing of the past next year.
I'm not so sure Arby is going to have a spot on the roster next year. Think he might get the Trey Watkins treatment.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:11 am to Joe Joe Joe
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I'm not so sure Arby is going to have a spot on the roster next year. Think he might get the Trey Watkins treatment.
I can't see Fields back next year. Between Rhymes, Katz, Edward, Sciambra, McMullen, Stevenson and Rivett - plus Jared Foster, who you've got to figure has more upside since he didn't have an offseason or a fall last year - that's eight outfielders. You only keep 17 position players. There's no way you can keep nine outfielders. And a guy who hit .203, plus only stole 4 of 7 bases, has no value.
Fields is out of here. That was obvious when Katz played center field this weekend.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:46 am to Pleasenewdc
I think the incoming class with give us a little more athleticism and depth, but Bregman is probably the only real impact player. Hopefully McMullen can be a difference maker, we will need it.
Other than that I think they will need some time to develop, unless they are forced into action due to non production of others. Once the 2013 class is on campus with them, and the roster turnover is complete, I think you'll be able to compare it to this year and see a pretty significant upgrade in talent.
Other than that I think they will need some time to develop, unless they are forced into action due to non production of others. Once the 2013 class is on campus with them, and the roster turnover is complete, I think you'll be able to compare it to this year and see a pretty significant upgrade in talent.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:52 am to Pleasenewdc
Moore will probably take third, Katz on first, and Jones and Bregman will play SS/2B. If hell freezes over and we're lucky enough to get Joey Gallo, he'll be on first and Katz will hit the outfield or DH.
Next year we should have Sciambra, McMullen, Stevenson, Jenkins, and others who have speed and can play outfield.
Arby's arse will not be in purple and gold next year, no doubt in my mind. He is the second coming of Trey Watkins. Foster needs to develop a good bit, but I believe he has some good potential, he just needs a full year to work out all the kinks he has.
I am not sure we'll see Yocum back next year, either. He, Arby, Baranik, Reed, and possibly Johnson will all probably be on the chopping block.
Next year we should have Sciambra, McMullen, Stevenson, Jenkins, and others who have speed and can play outfield.
Arby's arse will not be in purple and gold next year, no doubt in my mind. He is the second coming of Trey Watkins. Foster needs to develop a good bit, but I believe he has some good potential, he just needs a full year to work out all the kinks he has.
I am not sure we'll see Yocum back next year, either. He, Arby, Baranik, Reed, and possibly Johnson will all probably be on the chopping block.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:53 am to MOT
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Once the 2013 class is on campus with them, and the roster turnover is complete, I think you'll be able to compare it to this year and see a pretty significant upgrade in talent.
It's just disappointing that we have to completely revamp the roster and upgrade our talent 3 years removed from a national championship. Not going to lie, these past 3 years have been difficult to watch especially when you are seeing Florida and South Carolina reload each year.
More than anything, I'd just like to see some consistency in what we are trying to do. If we want to play small-ball, which I think we should, go recruit the fast, scrappy kids who can bunt and slap hits opposite field. Go get some kids that can work counts, draw walks and create some problems on base paths. But to look at this year's roster and our lineups towards the end of the season, a lot left to be desired.
This post was edited on 6/11/12 at 12:55 am
Posted on 6/11/12 at 1:01 am to Joe Joe Joe
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More than anything, I'd just like to see some consistency in what we are trying to do. If we want to play small-ball, which I think we should, go recruit the fast, scrappy kids who can bunt and slap hits opposite field. Go get some kids that can work counts, draw walks and create some problems on base paths. But to look at this year's roster and our lineups towards the end of the season, a lot left to be desired.
This year we had no speed and no power, definitely frustrating. I think you can still get by with a good mix, I wouldn't want to see us go all out with a team full of slap hitters. We still play most of our games in hitters' parks. But we definitely can't have a bunch of slow singles hitters up and down the lineup.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 1:06 am to MOT
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I wouldn't want to see us go all out with a team full of slap hitters.
Oh, absolutely not. I'm not talking about turning into some slap-dick, bush league team that's squeeze bunting every time a runner's on 3rd or who are bunting for singles back-to-back. I'd love to have 1 or 2 guys like the outfielders for USC who are big, physically-imposing guys who can bop the ball around with gap-power both ways.
Outside of Nola, we really didn't have a guy who could consistently work counts this years. Hanover to some degree, but I think he should've changed his approach even more than he did. And the total lack of team speed (not just hitting wise, but in the outfield as well) was just sickening. No one, outside of Jones, was a threat on the base paths. Coupled with terrible baserunning to begin with, it was all just a recipe for disaster.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 1:14 am to Joe Joe Joe
Agree on speed, it isn't just about stealing bases. It makes a difference running down balls in the outfield, going first to third, scoring from first on a double, etc.
I think between Jones, Moore, Katz, Rhymes, and Bregman we should be able to put together a pretty solid middle of the order....and we need to find a way to surround them with the type of players you mention.
I think between Jones, Moore, Katz, Rhymes, and Bregman we should be able to put together a pretty solid middle of the order....and we need to find a way to surround them with the type of players you mention.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 1:20 am to MOT
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and we need to find a way to surround them with the type of players you mention.
I don't think anyone fully understood how big a loss Sciambra's injury was at the time. He was starting to come into his own, especially as a lead-off hitter. Once he went down, everything (at least our batting order) went downhill. It'll be really nice getting him back along with Stevenson and McMullen. On paper, that's a major upgrade in terms of speed and athleticism in the outfield.
I agree that the core group is a pretty solid one. I think you'd love to put Bregman in 2 or 5 hole and surround him with some combination of Katz, Rhymes, Moore and Jones. A lineup of 1) Sciambra, 2) Bregman, 3) Rhymes, 4) Katz, 5) Moore, 6) Jones, 7) Ross, 8) Stevenson and 9) McMullen/Edward looks pretty good.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 1:31 am to macaoidh
When I look at that list I don't see an outfield that can field or cover ground even as good as Stony Brook. Most of the better hitters on that list aren't exceptional fielders. The good fielders haven't proven the can hit at a high level. I would give a couple of these newcomers a shot. At least one of them on that list I think ends up not playing for LSU after fall practice. We will see.
Posted on 6/11/12 at 1:56 am to TigersSEC2010
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If hell freezes over and we're lucky enough to get Joey Gallo, he'll be on first and Katz will hit the outfield or DH.
Gallo would start at 3rd. Moore or Katz at 1B/DH
Posted on 6/11/12 at 2:35 am to Joe Joe Joe
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3) Rhymes, 4) Katz, 5) Moore, 6) Jones, 7) Ross
Lets just assume that Raph is gonna Raph.....we still need someone to step up.....Katz needs to not strike out 60 ish times....Jones needs to live up to the billing....Moore needs to develop from year 1 to year 2.....and Ross needs to develop a little more as well.
If those guys step up we are right back where we are today.....just hopefully on the good side of things.
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