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re: 7 on 7 vs Hayden Rettig Update!!! OP
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:20 pm to deuce985
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:20 pm to deuce985
quote:ummm... Tell me a head coach that doesn't have a say in the offense?
A lot of that can be attributed to Les Miles stagnant offense. And before you say it's not his offense, you know it's at least partially his. Anybody who says he doesn't have a hand in this offense is ignorant. We need to get back to our 06-07 form.
Wasn't 06-07 his offense as well?
Stagnant? JJ/JL are the reasons it's been "stagnant".
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:31 pm to GABlueDog
quote:I never said anything about a secret playbook. But it's no secret that Les refused to run a lot of the plays they had worked on in practice during live game situations while Lee and JJ were there. That goes directly to the trust issues. I'm not trying to beat either of these kids up, but both had deficiencies that severely limited our offensive production at times. This is part of what makes Les such a great coach, IMO. There's a slew of other coaches that would've possibly lost the 1st bama game, Arky and GA games because they would've gotten impatient and tried to throw it all over the place. High risk/high reward simply doesn't work in this league. The defenses are way too good.
Ah yes, the secret playbook. I've heard of this playbook.
This post was edited on 6/20/12 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:13 am to ezrulz
Finally a few good comments after another thread got turned into an zinger/poke/pet peeve fest. I believe the whole argument on is Les running the offense is stupid and pointless. It doesn't matter if he is calling the plays or not. Because if he isn't then the guy he hired to call the play is and that puts Les in ultimate control of the offense regardless of who decided to run play X just now.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:03 am to sunnydaze
quote:This is a common misconception about our qb situation the last few years. Les Miles will do whatever he thinks he needs to do to win. We've only lost 2 games in the last 3 years that we shouldn't have lost(Ole Ms & PSt) and we haven't been blown out since 08 back when Lee was starting. JJ never has and never will be a great passer, but he didn't turn the ball over very often and he won a lot of games. Lee made his contributions, but in the end wins and losses are all that really matters. Lee looked solid running a simplified version of the offense against 9 teams that couldn't handle our running game last season. Against the more talented teams on our schedule who had better defensive fronts Jefferson was simply the better option. After the 1/9 debacle, I'm more upset with Miles for not emptying the playbook but not necessarily for his choice of qb.
I'm sure les has fapped to a JJ pic before
This post was edited on 6/21/12 at 2:07 am
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:33 am to AcetylCoA
quote:Yeah, besides those 2 WRs that will probably play D1 ball
He makes it look easy with shitty and I mean shitty athletes surrounding him
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:52 am to ezrulz
quote:
High risk/high reward simply doesn't work in this league. The defenses are way too good.
I think the implication is that Rettig is the kind of QB that allows you to throw the ball down field; because of his talent, the risk is outweighed substantially by the reward.
If he's half the QB he's said to be, you will have one hell of a weapon under center (in before "that's what she said").
Posted on 6/21/12 at 4:53 am to AMM AU9893
quote:
Yeah, besides those 2 WRs that will probably play D1 ball.
Tori and Damari?
Rettig is Cathedral. I sense a bunch of AU butthurt for taking that shitty Qb. Don't be mad because Les suckered y'all into accepting his commit.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 6:18 am to AcetylCoA
:fap: hope he stays committed
Posted on 6/21/12 at 7:40 am to AMM AU9893
quote:
Yeah, besides those 2 WRs that will probably play D1 ball
thanks for letting us have Rettig
Posted on 6/21/12 at 9:11 am to ezrulz
quote:
This is a common misconception about our qb situation the last few years. Les Miles will do whatever he thinks he needs to do to win. We've only lost 2 games in the last 3 years that we shouldn't have lost(Ole Ms & PSt) and we haven't been blown out since 08 back when Lee was starting. JJ never has and never will be a great passer, but he didn't turn the ball over very often and he won a lot of games. Lee made his contributions, but in the end wins and losses are all that really matters. Lee looked solid running a simplified version of the offense against 9 teams that couldn't handle our running game last season. Against the more talented teams on our schedule who had better defensive fronts Jefferson was simply the better option. After the 1/9 debacle, I'm more upset with Miles for not emptying the playbook but not necessarily for his choice of qb.
I know this is the recruiting board, but how dare you have a thought out argument that makes sense. I have said for 4 years, that you cannot hide a QB. I think he just played the guy he thought gave him the best chance to win the game.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 9:37 am to deuce985
I was getting ready to fap to this thread until y'all turned it into another "JJ/JL/Les Miles' offense sucks" thread.
Kinda like watching a good porno and suddenly there are two gay midgets going at it.
Kinda like watching a good porno and suddenly there are two gay midgets going at it.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 9:45 am to deuce985
quote:BS. Most people, when making a point about competition, make at least some thin reference to competition. Yours was just another zinger pot shot at Miles that jumped into your head and that you are now trying to backtrack from.
I'm just countering his point on competition as opposed to very little competition here.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 10:24 am to AcetylCoA
quote:
Tori and Damari?
Rettig is Cathedral. I sense a bunch of AU butthurt for taking that shitty Qb. Don't be mad because Les suckered y'all into accepting his commit.
FYI auburn fans know everything about Rettig after recruiting him for a few months and then stealing Johnson
Posted on 6/21/12 at 10:54 am to loweralabamatrojan
quote:That's pretty much what I've been saying. Deficiencies under center have adversely affected our offensive production. McCarron looked all-pro on 1/9 compared to what we've been seeing the last 4 years, in spite of being a first year starter. To me, that was very telling. Our offense should be much more efficient moving forward with different personnel in place.
I think the implication is that Rettig is the kind of QB that allows you to throw the ball down field; because of his talent, the risk is outweighed substantially by the reward.
This post was edited on 6/21/12 at 11:00 am
Posted on 6/21/12 at 12:47 pm to AMM AU9893
Yea, thanks for taking Johnson. Now you will feel what LSU felt when we had JJ playing for us 4 years in a row. Cuz Johnson didn't look anything special on his film.
This post was edited on 6/21/12 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 6/21/12 at 12:50 pm to AcetylCoA
quote:3* WRs usually play D1 ball. And Damari already has D1 offers. Don't know what you're laughing at. There's talent on Cathedral.
Tori and Damari?
quote:I liked both Rettig and Johnson before either committed, and would have been fine with either. We couldn't handle another Zeke Pike-esque attitude, so we took Johnson. Not mad in the slightest
I sense a bunch of AU butthurt for taking that shitty Qb. Don't be mad because Les suckered y'all into accepting his commit.
I'm not the one spewing out hyperboles to make my QB sound better
Posted on 6/21/12 at 12:54 pm to AMM AU9893
quote:
I liked both Rettig and Johnson before either committed, and would have been fine with either. We couldn't handle another Zeke Pike-esque attitude, so we took Johnson. Not mad in the slightest
Are you suggesting Rettig has a bad attitude? Look, we're happy to have two quarterbacks in this class at this point that don't have the last name Johnson. You can deal with the project at this point because we're over it.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 12:55 pm to ezrulz
quote:
This is a common misconception about our qb situation the last few years. Les Miles will do whatever he thinks he needs to do to win. We've only lost 2 games in the last 3 years that we shouldn't have lost(Ole Ms & PSt) and we haven't been blown out since 08 back when Lee was starting. JJ never has and never will be a great passer, but he didn't turn the ball over very often and he won a lot of games. Lee made his contributions, but in the end wins and losses are all that really matters. Lee looked solid running a simplified version of the offense against 9 teams that couldn't handle our running game last season. Against the more talented teams on our schedule who had better defensive fronts Jefferson was simply the better option. After the 1/9 debacle, I'm more upset with Miles for not emptying the playbook but not necessarily for his choice of qb.
This is a very good post.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:02 pm to Tiger Authority
quote:Not a "bad" attitude, just cocky like Pike. Not really a problem with it, our coaches just didn't want two in the same locker room for 4 years.
Are you suggesting Rettig has a bad attitude?
quote:LSU got 2 good QBs, I like both of them just as I like Johnson. Congrats
Look, we're happy to have two quarterbacks in this class at this point that don't have the last name Johnson. You can deal with the project at this point because we're over it.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:26 pm to AMM AU9893
Pike was a little more than just cocky.
the kid is/was stupid with his twitter and banter back and forth with bama fans.
not saying Rettig is any different, but Pike was something special, for sure.
the kid is/was stupid with his twitter and banter back and forth with bama fans.
not saying Rettig is any different, but Pike was something special, for sure.
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