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2 part question about LSU and running backs

Posted on 9/10/14 at 2:48 pm
Posted by Random LSU Hero
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 2:48 pm
1) Do NFL scouts find LSU backs appealing because they usually have lots of tread left on them and they usually have extensive special teams experience?

2) If yes to the first, does that have any effluence on a HS running back and his choice to come to LSU?
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 2:50 pm to
I think the coaches definitely show them that every back LSU has had over the past 10 years has at least made a roster to start preseason... You are given the opportunity to play in the NFL.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 3:03 pm to
RB in the NFL, as we know it, is slowly going away.

The days of a single player carrying the load in the NFL are limited
Posted by Meaux Bettah
Tiger Nation
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 3:13 pm to
Probably b/c they play against 60 or so NFL defensive players before they get to the NFL.
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 3:15 pm to
yes to both.


as a RB who is offered to a major university, one has to believe that he is thinking of his nfl future and not so much of being a Heisman candidate.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278268 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 3:26 pm to
LSU backs havent exactly fared well in the NFL. To a point where as a whole, they haven't been appealing at all. That's not an attempted shot; just the facts.
Posted by Oh Lawd
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 3:37 pm to
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LSU backs havent exactly fared well in the NFL. To a point where as a whole, they haven't been appealing at all. That's not an attempted shot; just the facts.



That's at most universities. Hell look at how bad Bama backs have done despite them being first round talents. It's exceedingly rare to have successful players in the NFL especially at a dying position.
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 4:08 pm
Posted by KG5989
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 3:40 pm to
1. Yes... Especially about the special teams part. If you're a guy fighting for a roster spot, teams would rather like to have a versatile player that can contribute in a lot of diff ways over a player that can only do 1 thing. How much work a RB has in college isn't a major thing to the NFL IMO... As long as that RB has been and is healthy / injury free. Bishop Sankey was the #1 RB taken this last draft and he had over 700 touches in 3 years. They def look at it... But don't think they would pass on a really good and healthy RB just because of his touches in college.

2. Not with the big named guys IMO. If you're a stud RB, we will offer you regardless if you can play special teams or not. But with a smaller recruit, like Alfred Blue, it def helps if you can contribute in diff ways. But that goes for a lot of guys who are on the bubble of earning an offer from us. Not every guy you give a scholarship contributes at all. But you want as many to contribute as possible.
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 3:47 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 3:52 pm to
RB's are not going to command those large salaries anymore except for Adrian Peterson. QB is the key spot in the NFL, without one your not going to win a Super Bowl. You need 2/3 RB's to carry the load nowadays because the game and defenses are so fast and physical compared to the Emmitt, Dickerson, Payton, Sanders days where marquee RB's were more important than having a QB.
Posted by DTRooster
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 3:53 pm to
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@DhaSickest: Lester earl on tiger droppings suck! He doesn't know football!! Need to get a life @TigerDroppings


But his post count is impressive
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:03 pm to
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Hell look at how good Bama backs have done despite them being first round talents.



true, but it's better to be a 1st round bust then it is to be an undrafted or 6th round bust after you leave school early.
Posted by Oh Lawd
Member since Sep 2014
497 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:11 pm to
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true, but it's better to be a 1st round bust then it is to be an undrafted or 6th round bust after you leave school early.



That shouldn't be a knock on LSU rb's. Spencer Ware or Michael Ford wouldn't have been a 1st rd pick if they stayed. It was better for them to leave because they would have fell in the depth chart.
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 4:12 pm
Posted by KG5989
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:21 pm to
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LSU backs havent exactly fared well in the NFL. To a point where as a whole, they haven't been appealing at all. That's not an attempted shot; just the facts.


While I do agree with that... which RBs from LSU were drafted high and had big time expectations, outside of Hill and Ridley? Hill is gonna be a good RB in the NFL and Ridley has had 1 really good year and looked promising early on but has since fallen out of favor with Belichick and has a fumbling issue. But he was a 3rd round pick and statistically has outperformed most of the RBs taken ahead of him.

I mean outside of Hill and Ridley, we havent had any RBs taken in the draft before the 3rd round with high expectations recently.

What up Lester?
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 4:22 pm
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40455 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:34 pm to
I think we as fans get too caught up in how NFL scouts and teams view certain schools. I generally think that most evaluations are done almost entirely on an individual basis. That's how so many small school guys end up excelling.
Posted by CP3LSU25
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:50 pm to
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@DhaSickest: Lester earl on tiger droppings suck! He doesn't know football!! Need to get a life @TigerDroppings


he wrote that?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278268 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 5:10 pm to
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That shouldn't be a knock on LSU rb's. Spencer Ware or Michael Ford wouldn't have been a 1st rd pick if they stayed. It was better for them to leave because they would have fell in the depth chart.



I disagree. And im sure they regret it at this point. Ware has been arrested twice and Ford can't stick.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278268 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 5:13 pm to
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which RBs from LSU were drafted high and had big time expectations, outside of Hill and Ridley?



none, which goes back to my original point. Why does it matter if they have tread or not, if they don't produce once they get in the league?

Hester just retired. Keiland can't make a team anymore. I dont think Dick Murphy is still around.

Shoot, Patriot beat writers were talking about how Ridley may be cut this offseason.

quote:

What up Lester?



not much, just enjoying FB season
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278268 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 5:14 pm to
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he wrote that?




Yea, i said Ducre was more impressive to me then Guice. Guess he took it to heart
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
29978 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 5:17 pm to
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@DhaSickest: Lester earl on tiger droppings suck! He doesn't know football!! Need to get a life @TigerDroppings


:kige:
Posted by clhstrojans
Lockport
Member since Apr 2008
819 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 5:31 pm to
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Yea, i said Ducre was more impressive to me then Guice. Guess he took it to heart


Ducre looks great don't get me wrong, but I'd wait till he puts those stats up against someone other than Riverdale & Miller McCoy before saying he's better than Guice. Saw Miller Mccoy in the jamboree and they stink. They got destroyed by a South Lafourche team that got smoked by Landry-Walker last week.

It's just funny that when Guice's highlights vs Breaux Bridge were posted, they had people saying that the competition looked terrible. Well that Breaux Bridge defense held high powered New Iberia to 3 points last week. Or when the stat line vs Parkview was posted and people said wait till he goes against a real defense like Rummel. Yet people are all gung hoe about what Ducre did vs Riverdale & Miller freaking McCoy.
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 5:32 pm
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