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So, any of you ever use deer antler velvet spray for tendinitis?

Posted on 7/30/17 at 12:34 am
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12638 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 12:34 am
I've been down since last September with my right elbow. Cortisone shots help with the pain, but the elbow has just gotten weak as hell. I even have trouble picking up a water bottle.

I was researching things other dudes have done to get over it and I saw some articles that talk up the deer antler velvet spray as being good for joints. True? False? Waste of money?

If there's a chance that it would help then I would try. Don't want to waste my time if it's bs. If anybody has any knowledge to share then it would be appreciated.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6478 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 4:13 am to
Have you had a MRI on the elbow to see exactly what's going on? If something is structurally wrong then no I don't think deer antler spray will have much effect.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12638 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 7:54 am to
No, my general Dr said that he's going to refer me to an Orthopedic Dr when this last shot wears off. I just don't want to have surgery if I can avoid it and I feel crappy not lifting for the last 11 months.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47135 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 8:03 am to
I have arthritis from an old break in my left elbow.

2 Aleve when it flares up.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 8:04 am
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18670 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:10 am to
I got some from AJ McCarron and Trent Richardson.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12638 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:56 am to
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I got some from AJ McCarron and Trent Richardson.


Hahahaha. Stupid thing is I got this idea from someone trolling Bama fans in the strength and conditioning coach thread. Hell, if there's a chance it could work, and it's only a few hundred bucks compared to the physical cost of surgery, then why not?
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:25 am to
Supposedly if you can fast a long time you can heal these ailments. By long time I mean couple weeks to a month. Longest I've done is like 4 or 5 days so I can't confirm lol. With that said, your body goes into ketosis while fasting, so maybe something to do with ketones helps repair the body.

I am putting two possibly completely unrelated thoughts together, no idea if a connection there, but maybe there is and you get a cheap fix
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278499 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:47 pm to
I took some and it relieved back pain for me. That being said prepare for the onslaught of people that will say it doesn't work
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12638 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 2:19 pm to
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I took some and it relieved back pain for me.


Do you just get it at GNC? How long did it take to start helping?
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12638 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:05 pm to
Geez. I found some really good sites loaded with info. A bottLe of this has between 3,000 to 5,000 nanograms of IGF-1. A 150lb man would need to consume 25 million nanograms daily to have the benefit of increased recovery from IGF-1. Back to the drawing board.
Posted by Farkwad
Byzantium
Member since Sep 2010
2669 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:20 pm to
Equine MSM, take the dosage for a horse (there is a loading phase). DMSO Cream on flare ups.

I get this one

DMSO Cream

EDIT: No, I am not joking.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 3:24 pm
Posted by lsu5803tiger
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Member since Feb 2006
1627 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 7:17 pm to
I'll be the first and say 'horseshite.' They're some supposedly healing peptides out there, BPC-157 and TB-500. I haven't done much research into them, some people swear by them.
Posted by Farkwad
Byzantium
Member since Sep 2010
2669 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

BPC-157 and TB-500. I haven't done much research into them, some people swear by them.


I have used both. BPC157 is site specific and can work if injected as close to the injury site as possible and taken everyday. Has better feedback with muscle tears than anything elese. If you tear a muscle use both. As for joints, I would use the protocol I gave above and give BPC157 a try.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 7:27 pm
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68466 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 7:50 pm to
My boy Ray L can hook you up
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166326 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:33 pm to
yeah, i have the same thing. right elbow and pain goes all the way into my wrist especially with grabbing of objects. Been hurting my strength significantly lately on top of nursing my left shoulder again. Body falling a part.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 6:00 am to
I've had tendinitis in one elbow or the other several times over the years. Are you doing any physical therapy or stretching routines to help the tendinitis?

My experience has been that unless I have a significant tear the PT and stretching has good results.
Posted by kevv824
Member since Sep 2006
2386 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 4:24 pm to
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I have used both.
You mention giving BPC157 a try. What were your thoughts on the TB500?
Posted by Farkwad
Byzantium
Member since Sep 2010
2669 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 6:35 pm to
Hard to say because I used both for a major pectoral muscle tear last year and I did recover much much much faster than the previous three times (over 20 year span) and I am older. Once you tear a muscle the propensity to tear it again is greater and I am a testament to that. I never had it roll complelty off the bone, but it was nasty and hurt. So, to answer your question, i really feel like for the muscle tear the BPC injected right near the point of injury was a better choice based on me talking with several fellow powerlifters and doing my own research. Use bbth if you are injured and can afford it, as they are not that pricey.
Posted by pcolatiger28
Pensacola, Fl
Member since Apr 2009
1284 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

Equine MSM, take the dosage for a horse (there is a loading phase). DMSO Cream on flare ups.


Care to share the loading phase and protocol that you used? I've got a bad shoulder and knee.
Posted by Farkwad
Byzantium
Member since Sep 2010
2669 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:21 am to
In the product I linked to, there is a scoop that measures 1 Tbsp and 12G. You take two scoops for the first 7 days and then 1 scoop thereafter. Make sure you are getting 3 Grams total (combined EPA and DHA) of Fish oil.
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