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re: Copper Mill might want to choose another photo for their promos, eh?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 9:50 am to Hmmm13
Posted on 7/10/17 at 9:50 am to Hmmm13
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These comments are almost unreal.. you people are commenting on management that isn't there anymore, half of you were saying it's on life support yet the place just redid the entire Clubhouse and cart barn so you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Their management team has treated me like family every time I've been and I had one issue with slow play and was given a free round. The greens have come back perfectly as of the beginning of this month and only have two holes with small issues. For the person that had their coat stolen you clearly did not go to the general manager and say anything because the general manager there is named Patrick and never would have let that stand if what you're saying is even true. I love Santa Maria I love Beavercreek I love Carter but I get tired of watching people bash on copper that have no idea what they're talking about.
sorry but place sucks. could be good but no way am i going to putt on dirt and worry about my crap getting taken
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 9:53 am to Hmmm13
quote:It was mismanaged. It is mismanaged.
you people are commenting on management that isn't there anymore
quote:Has everything to do with the conditions of the course and the amount of play it gets.
half of you were saying it's on life support yet the place just redid the entire Clubhouse and cart barn so you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
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The greens have come back perfectly as of the beginning of this month and only have two holes with small issues.
quote:Thanks, Patrick.
I get tired of watching people bash on copper that have no idea what they're talking about.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 9:55 am to Hmmm13
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Hmmm13
Stop drinking the kool-aid baw
I played there a month ago and it needs some serious TLC.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 9:59 am to Hmmm13
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For the person that had their coat stolen you clearly did not go to the general manager and say anything because the general manager there is named Patrick and never would have let that stand if what you're saying is even true.
Hi Patrick
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:21 am to Hmmm13
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These comments are almost unreal.. you people are commenting on management that isn't there anymore, half of you were saying it's on life support yet the place just redid the entire Clubhouse and cart barn so you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
Did they buy back the driving range?
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Their management team has treated me like family every time I've been and I had one issue with slow play and was given a free round.
I'll admit the only time I've had an issue with management was with the rude member I posted about earlier.
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but I get tired of watching people bash on copper that have no idea what they're talking about.
I would say everyone on this board doesn't want to see another course in Louisiana struggle. We continue to lose options and with that brings down the interest in the game. Personally, I don't want to see Copper struggle. I actually think it's the best public layout in the BR area. It requires you to use every club in your bag and has a good mix of risk-reward shots and downright tough holes. I even like the way it's setup to play in prevailing summer winds.
However, I don't get to play that much anymore and need to hit 15-20 balls before teeing off. And given that my number of rounds a month is limited, I'll go somewhere that I'm guaranteed to get my money's worth.
I posted this thread not to crap on CM, but to have a laugh at their expense since they were too short-sighted regarding the driving range.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:36 am to ell_13
-Ell_13 Explain how its mismanaged? Dont just make the comment, justify what your alleging.
-When you say something is on life support that means its close to closing. That is incorrect in this situation.
-The greens have come back, I just played there friday and only saw issues with #1 and #2. They put new green down on the issues with 7 and 16. If you can name a green other then those that had issues please do.
-No I am not Patrick the manager, but I play copper a lot and was a former member there. I now am a member at False River Country Club because I retired there, do you want to say anything negative about that course to while you are at it?
-When you say something is on life support that means its close to closing. That is incorrect in this situation.
-The greens have come back, I just played there friday and only saw issues with #1 and #2. They put new green down on the issues with 7 and 16. If you can name a green other then those that had issues please do.
-No I am not Patrick the manager, but I play copper a lot and was a former member there. I now am a member at False River Country Club because I retired there, do you want to say anything negative about that course to while you are at it?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:39 am to Golfer
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Did they buy back the driving range?
the driving range is about to have 50+- houses built on it. Infrastructure already laid.
I'll say this about CM -
I was a member there about 8 years ago for at least a year. There is a group of regulars who literally think they run the course - and I guess they do on some level. If they don't get a certain tee time for certain days (or everyday) they cry about it. They don't let anyone play through. A lot of people here probably know a lot of them. Some of them were public personalities at sometime in the BR area. I'm sure some of them post on TD and if they do, they probably post on this board. So that's out the way.
What happened is the developer had to sell the course or stop operating it. Most of us know that golf courses are losing propositions. The HOA had a decision to make and you could say they had to buy the course for all of the obvious reasons. Billy Casper Golf is running the course I believe. They were if they still aren't. The developer was willing to sell the driving range, but he wanted as much for it as he thought he could make by developing. The HOA was willing to buy the course but not the range. In all honesty, the range probably should have never been in that location. There were plenty of other 'junk' areas that it could have been located around the course, but it did make sense from a flow of cart traffic standpoint.
The overall problem is that the course is not a money maker and the HOA has to subsidize it. So they are already cash strapped.
I played in March and the greens were complete shite. I played last week (got a free pass from a friend) and the greens were WAY better, but still not on beaver creek/fennwood hills level if you are familiar with those nearby courses. But it was playable whereas in March it was not.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 10:41 am
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:49 am to Hmmm13
quote:It has been close to closing before. But I didn't make this comment. Regardless, it doesn't have the membership or play to hang on long.
When you say something is on life support that means its close to closing. That is incorrect in this situation.
quote:So not "perfect" like you said?
The greens have come back, I just played there friday and only saw issues with #1 and #2.
quote:Almost every green still has dry/dead spots. If you're okay with that and so is management, then that's a problem.
If you can name a green other then those that had issues please do.
quote:Goat track.
I now am a member at False River Country Club because I retired there, do you want to say anything negative about that course to while you are at it?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:56 am to ell_13
I think everybody is in the same boat of wanting Copper to do well because the track is fun, but everyone has the same concerns.
All people want is a place that's in good condition, doesn't allow stupid BS behavior such as the dude shooting the bird or getting their stuff stolen, and somewhere to work on their game.
Nobody is bashing CM just to bash it. Copper just cant provide these services.
For the record I have spent plenty of money out there, but i was able to get a tee time at TPC for $49. I know where I'll be spending my money
All people want is a place that's in good condition, doesn't allow stupid BS behavior such as the dude shooting the bird or getting their stuff stolen, and somewhere to work on their game.
Nobody is bashing CM just to bash it. Copper just cant provide these services.
For the record I have spent plenty of money out there, but i was able to get a tee time at TPC for $49. I know where I'll be spending my money
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 10:57 am
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:57 am to Golfer
I guess this is why I get upset and go immediately on the defensive. Because your ABSOLUTEY right, I dont want to see another golf course close either. Its a fun a track and I have enjoyed playing it from the coppers, and now enjoying my time at the front tees when I can get out there. Not to mention their pricing is lower then most places and thats why i continue to make the drive out there. The sr special day on tuesday is $25 for round and lunch :). It just flusters me when people make comments about the prior management and their prior experiences before this new management came in. Negative comments can spread like wildfire (especially in the golf community) and hurt a course badly. If I were you I would call copper, ask for Patrick, and explain the situation because that kind of crap should never happen. We did have a few members out there who I could see doing this when I was a member there, so i believe you.I am sure they will make it right if you explain it to him.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:06 am to Navajo61490
I used to live in Zachary and preferred CM way over Beaver Creek. Like many have said, it's a great layout. No range, bad greens (okay now, but still not any better than anything outside of Clark), etc. All it's good for now is charity tournaments for local high schools and the like.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:08 am to ell_13
ell_13 Your making ignorant comments that you have no proof to back up. Considering the course is owned by HOA and all the remaining lots have been purchased in the neighborhood through Level Construction as of a couple of months ago, which means that the course is in short guaranteed to stay open unless some catastrophic situation were to happen like another flood wiping outthe course or the course catching on fire. There is a reason the residents who live there pay $1500 in HOA fees, and when the course was purchased they budgeted hoping that a certain number of lots would be bought and built on. With the purchase level made of all remaining lots, it went above the home count the HOA initially budgeted for which means they have more money to work with then what was budgeted. So no they are not going to close, and you obviously have no idea what talking about.
14 of the 18 greens are in perfect shape, 2 still have issues like i said and the other 2 have new sod on the problem areas... so yea they are about in perfect shape.
lastly, you have clearly showed everyone here by your response on copper closing that you have no idea what your talking about and are a joke
14 of the 18 greens are in perfect shape, 2 still have issues like i said and the other 2 have new sod on the problem areas... so yea they are about in perfect shape.
lastly, you have clearly showed everyone here by your response on copper closing that you have no idea what your talking about and are a joke
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:14 am to Hmmm13
quote:This never gets old...
Your making ignorant comments
quote:Does that mean the HOA will never consider using the land for lots to help bring dues down?
Considering the course is owned by HOA
quote:Because they have a course that can't support itself. We've established that.
There is a reason the residents who live there pay $1500 in HOA fees
quote:My only comment about closing was my last one. I said it can't hang on long the way it is.
With the purchase level made of all remaining lots, it went above the home count the HOA initially budgeted for which means they have more money to work with then what was budgeted. So no they are not going to close, and you obviously have no idea what talking about.
quote:That's simply not true.
14 of the 18 greens are in perfect shape,
quote:Even by your count, 78% isn't close to "perfect"
so yea they are about in perfect shape.
quote:Goodness. Again, I never said it was about to close or on a bubble.
by your response on copper closing
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 11:17 am
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:24 am to rmc
This is 100% correct, and a very accurate assessment of whats happened and going on. I am familiar with the group you are speaking about and yes your right. I am pretty sure that game has started to break apart because it looks like a much smaller group then it use to. Beavers greens and Fennwoods greens are AWESOME and when I lived in zachary it was like golf heaven :). However all 3 courses are fun in my opinion and all have their own unique characteristics which make them great. I would love to see copper get back to the pristine days, and based on the purchasing of all the lots, and the redoing of the club house, it looks like they may try and get back there.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:51 am to ell_13
ell_13 Why would the HOA close the course and use the land for lots to bring down dues? That would mean every person with a house on the golf course would lose 30% of their home value which makes no sense and would never be approved?
you stated that "they didnt have the membership to hang on long."... HANG ON LONG insinuates that they course will not be able to be open long, which clearly is incorrect due to everything I stated with the Level Purchases.
Do you think before you post or do you just write out whatever nonsense comes to your mind at the time?
you stated that "they didnt have the membership to hang on long."... HANG ON LONG insinuates that they course will not be able to be open long, which clearly is incorrect due to everything I stated with the Level Purchases.
Do you think before you post or do you just write out whatever nonsense comes to your mind at the time?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 12:10 pm to Hmmm13
quote:I like that you left out my stipulation of "if things stay the same". Weren't the "level purchases" just a sale from one builder to another at an extremely discounted rate? Something like just $49k per lot? Does that mean they are sold already?
HANG ON LONG insinuates that they course will not be able to be open long, which clearly is incorrect due to everything I stated with the Level Purchases.
quote:We get it. You're biased. The green went from "perfect except for 2 minor issues" to "almost perfect except for 4 holes". You really want to fight me on credibility after that?
Do you think before you post or do you just write out whatever nonsense comes to your mind at the time?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 2:39 pm to Hmmm13
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I would love to see copper get back to the pristine days
Me too. It was the first course I played when I started actually being halfway serious about golf. I used to get aggravated when I played anywhere that wasn't 6 par 5s and 6 par 3s (so almost everywhere else). So it even has some nostalgia for me. I probably play out there half a dozen times a year including charity scrambles.
I think that the people running the HOA now will give it as good of a go as they can to get the course back to where it used to be. I am rooting for them.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 2:41 pm
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