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Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:14 am to
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:14 am to
Origen has had the best game planning, scouting, strategy, and execution I have ever seen in LoL.

They are beating people by focusing their opponents' weaknesses, strengths, and communication. Three different wins. Three different ways. Three different god games from Peke on three different champions.
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:38 am to
PENTAKILL FOR BALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Twitch Chat: "Diamond 2 > EU"
This post was edited on 10/4/15 at 11:40 am
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:39 am to
Mother fricking C9!!!!
This is a worrying trend!!!
Posted by bubbz
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:07 pm to
Clg binging out blitz
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 1:02 pm to
And losing. Such a stupid comp. wtf are you doing picking that into a keenan?

Nvm the fact that Keenan is a huge flex pick that allows koo to hard counter with morgana.
Blitz into Keenan is stupid. Keenan wants to get pulled.
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 1:09 pm to
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Keenan


Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 3:17 pm to
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And losing. Such a stupid comp. wtf are you doing picking that into a keenan?

Nvm the fact that Keenan is a huge flex pick that allows koo to hard counter with morgana.
Blitz into Keenan is stupid. Keenan wants to get pulled.
Bruh.
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 3:59 pm to
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Bruh.


I was laughing the entire time

Side note, finally played a few ranked games. Silver II boys!
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 4:07 pm to
So cloud 9 is the scrappiest team in worlds at the moment, they are so much fun to watch. It's like they go into every single game with nothing to lose. That early Baron call was a thing of beauty in the long run, It showed FNC "we are not afraid to take whatever we want" and then gave them Baron control from that point going forward. Hai has absolutely shown the world how utterly important a really really good shot caller is.
This post was edited on 10/4/15 at 4:08 pm
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 4:16 pm to
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Hai has absolutely shown the world how utterly important a really really good shot caller is


Very true.

Conversely, TSM has been a prime example of what you look like when you don't have one.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 4:29 pm to
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Conversely, TSM has been a prime example of what you look like when you don't have one.
HEY!



You're completely right...
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 4:32 pm to
But thank God for this guy!!!




Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:09 pm to
He was just what the doctor ordered when he was first brought on, but he's trying to do too much now.
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 1:31 am to
I wouldn't be surprised if bjerg left to go to origen.
The aftermath of MSG showed how terrible of a team environment regi creates.

I think it was clg's coach that was talking about how mental attitude is a big part of performance. And that loco was saying and trying to do the right things for the team. And then regi cuts in and says the exact wrong things.

Dyrus is retiring, turtle and santorin underperform, and list boy can only do so much.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:22 am to
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I wouldn't be surprised if bjerg left to go to origen.
He's under contract until 2018 and no other team has anywhere near the money to buy out his contract. I also think that if Regi hadn't stepped in, TSM wouldn't have even made the finals. Whatever Loco was doing wasn't working.
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 10:24 am
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 3:19 pm to
Loco is/was good for the logistics. He brought routine and discipine to the team OUTSIDE of the game.

He should not be heavily involved with in game strategy. I'm my opinion he is a hindrance to TSM's game play. They are better off without him.

When your star player and owner don't often agree with the coach, it's time to get rid of him.
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 5:21 pm to
The owner has a history of making good business decisions and being a difficult personality.

Drewbie may be partial to tsm, but it isn't me making the accusations on mental approach. It's the guy that fixed clg.
To me, as many mental issues as clg has had in the past, that carries some weight.

I'm not saying that loco is good at analysis. I'm not saying that regi is or isn't.
I think that tsm needs to modify its structure.
Analyst, coach, logistics, teamwork/interpersonal coach, business person, and players all need to have distinct roles and mutual respect. Do your own job.
Jerry jones does not help the Cowboys. Regi needs to just be the owner.

Beating lgd shows that they have the talent (at least bjerg) to compete and win against the best. I think it isn't purely a talent issue. It's an accumulation of issues.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 6:08 pm to
I completely agree that Regi makes anything practice-related more toxic, but he's always been that way and TSM has always performed well under him. I was ok with it because at the time it looked like the team needed someone to step in and be the authority that couldn't be questioned. shite like Bjerg going against Loco and playing Ezreal when Loco wanted Ori (and Ori would have made the comp 10x better), that shite had to go. That's why I attribute their success in playoffs to Regi stepping in. Loco wasn't an authority. He was just another one of the guys. Loco can't reign Bjerg's ego in and it's obvious. Regi steps in and Bjerg will back off. It's clear who the players respect. I completely agree with you, though. But until they can modify the current structure, I'm ok with Regi being involved because the team clearly doesn't respect Loco enough to allow him to be the loudest voice. They need a coach that will encourage a more aggressive playstyle. It's what TSM has always been good at and they have the players to pull it off. I have no doubt Regi will replace Dyrus with someone as good or better. Santorin isn't a bad player, I'm willing to keep him as long as we can get a leader that will encourage a more aggressive playstyle. I think if that mindset were to be re-implemented, Santorin would become more impactful by default.
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 6:11 pm
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 6:15 pm to
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They need a coach that will encourage a more aggressive playstyle


This is the biggest issue. IMO Loco does not bring that mindset to this team.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 6:18 pm to
Being proactive rather than reactive has always been more successful regardless of the meta. I don't get this mindset at all. Look at the singular game TSM has won at Worlds. How did it start? frickING DYRUS was the FIRST to TP bot. What happened? Turtle got First Blood and everything snowballed from there. Magic. Bjerg wasn't even part of the play. Bjerg TP'd top to cover Dyrus' tower while he made the play bot. This team doesn't need to rely on Bjerg to win. They showed that in the spring. They just need to get their shite together and start playing with some aggression and purpose.
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 6:19 pm
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