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re: Microsoft: “We can spend Sony out of business…”

Posted on 6/28/23 at 5:52 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 5:52 pm to
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biggest MS fan boy


Nope. Huge Game Pass fan.

Also huge opponent of government overreach, which is the case with any government that tries to block this deal.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 5:55 pm to
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kinda surprised sony allowed that to happen.


MLB forced them to do that. Other option was to lose the contract.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 5:57 pm to
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microsoft: "good for me, but not for thee."


Comment makes no sense. Who else is trying to do day one releases on streaming services the way MS does with Game Pass?
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:07 pm to
Jim Ryan is a clown.




Posted by tiger25
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:23 am to
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So basically Microsoft is the video game version of Disney. Just like Disney turned Star Wars and Marvel to shite, Microsoft can do the same with Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and the other franchises they've bought.


Bethesda is doing that on their own. They have destroyed fallout with their last 2 releases.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:22 am to
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Huge Game Pass fan.

Also huge opponent of government overreach, which is the case with any government that tries to block this deal.



Translation:


"I want Microsoft to be a monopoly because all I think about is me and no other gamers. I want every game I like and their developers to be owned by Microsoft so they can offer it on Gamepass for $20/month while other gamers that don't think like me can suck it and pay $70 a game."


Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 9:54 am to
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I want Microsoft to be a monopoly


Sony will still be the dominant player in gaming after this deal.

The major problem for Sony is their deal with ABK for co-advertising with COD ends this year. What PS fans who enjoy COD should be worried about is that Sony has rejected even negotiating a deal with MS for COD and PS has indicated they don't want to provide dev kits for the PS6 to MS-owned studios. It came out during this trial that Sony wouldn't provide dev kits for the PS5, which meant MS couldn't optimize Minecraft for the latest PS console until later.

Sony is the company acting anticompetitive here. Not Microsoft. There is no way to look at the facts of this deal and come to a different conclusion. That's fine, they're competitors, but it is not fine that the US government is basically acting like a gatekeeper for a Japanese company against the merger of two US companies.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 10:05 am
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:35 am to
Wanna hear something that’s fricking hilarious maybe someone mentioned it I didn’t read the thread. After all the god damn teeth mashing and wailing and crying and whiny bitching jumping at shadows or anything to give them hope FF16 would fail it’s basically come to the point where even the die hard born in the wool Microsoft tards can’t deny the massive success 16 is not only for square but for Sony in terms of shipping ps5. Now Xbox wants TO BUY SQUARE ENIX. Literally like 10 days ago all Microsoft only people talked about was how shite SE was and they blew
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 10:36 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:43 am to
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Now Xbox wants TO BUY SQUARE ENIX.


Wrong. They considered buying Square Enix but went with Zenimax instead.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:47 am to
The implication coming out from Microsoft’s own people and journalist not td01241 guy off work is they want to buy SE asap because they always have been and just again proved themselves to be one of if not the best and most successful 3rs party devs to somehow bring into your fold. They bought zenimax way before 16 launched bro.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:55 am to
Just check the title of this thread for frick sake. How exactly is Xbox, a failing console with some of the worst brand imaging In electronics that’s got absolutely no games that anyone wants to play but won’t shut up about being able to play terrible games on game pass going to so shite to Sony who is absolutely crushing them like they’re ants? Well when you haven’t got shite for new games people wanna play and Sony routinely puts out 2-3 at least very high budget very high quality games a year you have to find a way to take those from them. Square seems to me to be the last 3ed party studio on the earth that would commit treason to Xbox but they’ve done it before ditching Nintendo 64 for ps1 to have ff7 on disks. At the time Sony had to not only pay SE for the game but over like 200 million marketing it and this was inc1996-1997. So yeah Phil Spencer it’s obvious you want to have SE make exclusively 1st party games for you but I hope you have the money you say you so because right now Sony probably prizes SE above any other non in house studio
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:01 am to
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The implication coming out from Microsoft’s own people and journalist not td01241 guy off work is they want to buy SE asap


No, there's no implication of this at all. What you're referencing were internal documents. You don't understand the articles you're reading.

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They bought zenimax way before 16 launched bro.


And?

LINK

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As reported by Bloomberg, documents included in the FTC's antitrust suit against Microsoft revealed that the company considered acquiring Square Enix in 2019.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:30 am to
Ok take for a second on face value I admit I was wrong about what you quoted (I’m not we will get to that but stick with me) read the title of the thread and look at my post above. How does money help Xbox if absolutely no one wants to work with them they can’t outright by and bring in house? Well the only logical answer to that is to back up multiple brinks trucks and some tickets to Epstein island for the SE board along with other similar big 3rd party Sony focused game studios that we know from data and analysis of it from people much better to examine that either or us are actively massively helping shift huge booms in ps5 units. You don’t have to be a genius to see this is what Microsoft lacks the most (although Xbox is just fricked in many ways) and the data bears it out because people are selling their Xboxes they trusted would deliver anything worthwhile in about 3 years aside from hi fi rush to buy PlayStation.

And no I’m not basing this off journalist interpretations, although those do exist from some of the best and most respected in that industry (if you even respect them I larger think they’re hacks outside of Jason S and a few others) but corporate statements made both Microsoft corporate and Xbox gaming studios
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 11:32 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:46 am to
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I’m not


You are, and this makes your entire point meaningless.

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no one wants to work with them


The implications are exactly the opposite.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:53 am to
Again taking it face value I’m completely wrong about that part. Just I’m dead wrong. How does that invalidate the entire 8 sentence long cold hard truth staring down Xbox that you conveniently chose to ignore. None of is based off the things you’re disputing it’s based off the info in the OP, Xbox as a brand currently, how much the consumer market hates their guts, verifiable huge upticks in people selling off Xbox to switch to ps5, and their absolute embarrassing lack of not on 3rd party support but even worthwhile 1st party games they’ve spent how many billions acquiring? They had a golden goose in halo but oops ducked that up and the Halo brand is about as dead as Star Wars.

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The opposite


I will be the first to admit I am not seething for Xbox news at mouth rabidly when I wake every morning as you seem to be. Can you please tell my dumbass which big name draws from 2nd/3rd party studios Xbox hasn’t bought that are tripping over themselves to make games for a dead console? I mean keeping with the SE example they’re remaking FF9 and guess what they ain’t bringing it to Xbox. Ff7 rebirth will out sale 16 most likely and wil come out right after Starfield their supposed savior and embarrass the hell out of them.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 11:56 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:54 pm to
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I will be the first to admit I am not seething for Xbox news at mouth rabidly when I wake every morning as you seem to be.


I'm following the FTC case, which is going on this week, closely. You clearly aren't.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:09 pm to
So you’re following a Federal Trade Commission case involving Microsoft more explicitly Xbox studios? That’s awesome man I hope you like it. How have you even made one single attempt at making a debate against anything I’ve said that doesn’t rely on statements put out by Xbox studios, as I’ve said I’ll just take on face value I’m wrong there and defer to you since I believe you honestly would know better.

Still leaves about 90% or all I’ve said without a response. At all. In any way. Curious
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:20 pm to




Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51064 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:20 pm to
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How have you even made one single attempt at making a debate against anything I’ve said that doesn’t rely on statements put out by Xbox studios


This is a weird thing to say about court filings and statements made under oath.

If you're wanting to get the actual story then following this court case is the best way to do it.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:23 pm to
Seems weird that the FTC would bring that up. Seems to fully support Microsoft's statements that they don't think making COD exclusive would be profitable.
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