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Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:04 pm to
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:04 pm to
2019 would be 6 years so it's a good cycle
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:06 pm to
I didn't watch or follow it any. I only had interest in it if it had a 4K BR player so that's a big letdown but oh well. Keep the Xbone S and original PS4 for the foreseeable future and game 90% on PC.



I do think this extra power is nice for those wanting a top of the line 1080p experience. Games that use it will go from 1080p/30 on medium settings to 1080p/60 on high/ultra settings. It'll be a nice jump and worth it for new PS owners.

As far as upgrading from current one, guess that depends on any trade in deals and how much it would be. Be similar to a GPU upgrade, if it's $150 to upgrade from medium graphics level to high/ultra stable 60FPS, that's up to the buyer.

Still makes absolutely zero sense to not have a 4K Bluray player when you're fricking Sony for gods sake. Like how in the frick...
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 8:07 pm
Posted by tconle2
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:30 pm to
They want you to spend another few hundred on their ultra high blu ray player lol
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:41 pm to
They still don't have one out, only Samsung has one available and it's $399 MSRP.

Or Xbone S at $299.

Easy choice.
Posted by tconle2
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:18 pm to
Dang. Microsoft played that well.
Posted by DannyB
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 2:49 am to
Yes MS did.

Sony really dropped the ball here with no UHD bluray drive. Not jumping into 4k myself yet, tv or pc wise. I like 3440x1440 at over 100fps at ultra settings more than gimping visuals to run at hopefully 60fps in 4k at gimped visuals on pc.
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 3:17 am
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 8:24 am to
That's the thing though, does it really matter that much? I would have liked them to put the drive in but doubt I will use it anytime soon. Heck I have probably only watched 4 blue rays in my time. They clearly had a price point to meet, and I would take the extra power over the drive.

Really doubt Sony wanted to go down the road of losing big money on their system sells again after the PS3 launch. And it's not like the PS3 having the blue ray player helped them that much vs the 360?



Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 8:33 am to
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Speaking to developers on site, several aspects of the checkerboard technology came into focus. Up until now, we've seen it as a software post-process upscale, but in actual fact, it's one of a number of new custom features backed into the PS4 Pro's GPU and as such comes with zero cost to game developers. We also understand that while it is a hardware feature, game-makers do seem to have a certain level of control - which may perhaps explain why different games exhibit varying levels of artefacting.

But the key takeaway is this - while the PlayStation 4 Pro GPU lacks the horsepower to render out challenging content at native 4K, the presentation we've seen on a number of titles clearly shows a worthwhile, highly desirable increase in fidelity over 1080p - one that does put a 4K screen to good use. Switching between full HD and checkerboard 4K, the increase in detail is simply stunning.

To its credit, Sony understands that a certain level of scepticism will persist here and to that end, several Sony developers on site told us that lead architect Mark Cerny will be going into the specifics of the custom hardware features in the next few weeks. Enticingly, we were also told that there was more to the GPU enhancements mentioned than just the checkerboard upscaler, so the details there should be fascinating.


Long article on the pro here.

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The startling reality - for now - is that Sony has created a cost-efficient box that is capable of getting great results from top-tier 4K display technology, but the cost of the right screen isn't going to be cheap for a long while.


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This achievement is marred somewhat by the lack of UHD Blu-ray support - a remarkable omission for a device marketed as a 4K 'Pro' upgrade over the standard PlayStation 4. Perhaps it was required in order to hit the aggressive price-point, but equally it may well reflect a lack of interest from Sony itself in the format. Regardless, it leaves Microsoft in the interesting position of having the only console to run the UHD disc format and while actual take-up may be limited, it does take just a little of the sheen away from the Pro. The bottom line is this - if you're looking to invest a lot of money in a high-end 4K HDR display, you want an all-in-one box that gives you the most options for getting the most out of it. HDR media is limited at the moment as it is, so cutting off a potential source of content for your new screen really comes across as a little short-sighted.
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 8:43 am
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 8:43 am to
Question: A PS4 Pro would be best put to use on a 4K UHD TV, but would it be worth it on a 1080p screen as well?
Posted by tconle2
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 8:48 am to
Amazon has a 40" Samsung 4K for $450.
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 8:50 am
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 8:55 am to
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Question: A PS4 Pro would be best put to use on a 4K UHD TV, but would it be worth it on a 1080p screen as well?


IMO yes. There will be visual and performance improvements.

But obviously it is up to each consumer if this is worth the money.

You won't be missing out on any games by not getting it.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 8:56 am to
BF will not be bumped up to 60fps from 30 so for you no
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 8:56 am
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:00 am to
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BF will not be bumped up to 60fps from 30 so for you no


Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:01 am to
Battlefield 1 beta was fun. Will buy.
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 9:04 am
Posted by sbr2
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:07 am to
New Mass Effect Andromeda gameplay footage?!? Hnnnnghhhh
Posted by tconle2
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:33 am to
What channels usually can you get in 4K?
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:41 am to
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40"
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:42 am to
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BF will not be bumped up to 60fps from 30 so for you no
Wasn't BF4 a 60 FPS game on PS4? I think it was.

And I'm not getting BF1.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:44 am to
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And I'm not getting BF1.


Yep. Game didn't grab me at all.
Posted by sbr2
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:44 am to
Too futuristic for you?
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