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re: 'Games were supposed to be a fun career choice: Now I'm afraid I'll get murdered
Posted on 3/7/15 at 2:11 pm to stout
Posted on 3/7/15 at 2:11 pm to stout
quote:Exactamundo.
Do you honestly think that someone is going to rape and murder a game developer just because she's a woman? No. It's all just internet BS. Men get messed with too. CliffyB, Phil Spencers, etc. The list could go on and on. They ignore it and don't take it personal. The women don't ignore it and make it worse because they give the internet more ammo. They just need to grow thicker skin.
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Posted on 3/7/15 at 2:29 pm to stout
quote:
Do you honestly think that someone is going to rape and murder a game developer just because she's a woman? No. It's all just internet BS. Men get messed with too. CliffyB, Phil Spencers, etc. The list could go on and on. They ignore it and don't take it personal. The women don't ignore it and make it worse because they give the internet more ammo. They just need to grow thicker skin.
How the frick are you supposed to be able to tell when a death threat is legit or not?
You sound like a complete buffoon to just say "Oh well they should toughen up and ignore it" when some frick starts spewing crazy shite at a person for weeks on end.
There are crazy frickers out there that do crazy things and when you get a deluge of vile horseshite that includes rape and death threats its not some nothing deal to be taken lightly.
This post was edited on 3/7/15 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 3/7/15 at 2:34 pm to Dr RC
Why don't those threats garner the same level of response when it involves males?
And don't you dare say that other non-female developers don't receive threats on the same level as these chicks.
We both know that isn't true.
This post was edited on 3/7/15 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 3/7/15 at 2:39 pm to Scruffy
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And don't you dare say that other non-female developers don't receive threats on the same level as these chicks.
We both know that isn't true.
can you please give a link where male developers are being told they are going to be raped and killed, have pictures of their homes posted, and have crazed fricks claiming on youtube they were driving to a persons house to frick them up over and over?
and how do you know those men haven't tried to go to the police only to be essentially ignored?
I highly doubt you or anyone here would act like it was no big deal if all the sudden you, your daughter, wife, or son started getting a tons of death/rape threats like these people have so don't even pretend like you would laugh it off like it was no big deal.
This post was edited on 3/7/15 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 3/7/15 at 3:03 pm to Dr RC
I'm sure it's distressing to receive death threats and other extreme forms of hate mail, but 99% of the time it's socially backward misfits venting about the newest entry in their favorite series or genre failing to live up to their expectations.
People get overly passionate about the various forms of entertainment media and form strong unrealistic opinions about them. With the internet, these fricktards get a soapbox and an easy means of sending messages to those they deem responsible for tainting their beloved game, movie, etc.
I wish we lived in a world where people could form coherent rational arguments about things that bothered them, but we don't live in that world.
People get overly passionate about the various forms of entertainment media and form strong unrealistic opinions about them. With the internet, these fricktards get a soapbox and an easy means of sending messages to those they deem responsible for tainting their beloved game, movie, etc.
I wish we lived in a world where people could form coherent rational arguments about things that bothered them, but we don't live in that world.
This post was edited on 3/7/15 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 3/7/15 at 3:20 pm to Dr RC
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can you please give a link where male developers are being told they are going to be raped and killed, have pictures of their homes posted, and have crazed fricks claiming on youtube they were driving to a persons house to frick them up over and over?
Nope, because male developers do the exact opposite of draw attention to it. Can you give me a link to a news story where someone made good on their death threat to a game developer/reviewer?
I honestly don't even need evidence to know that male developers/reviewers get similar bullshite thrown at them, because I've received them too. And this was back when I was just a writer/editor of a local magazine. Just a stupid college rag with college humor, low-brow satire, and generally crappy-ish writing that made literally no difference in the world. But people are people and think they matter more than everyone else, and when of those people gets offended, they jump behind their keyboards, and that's where they stay.
Posted on 3/7/15 at 3:37 pm to stout
This a stupid discussion you know how many death threats I get from just PLAYING games.
Posted on 3/7/15 at 3:38 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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Nope, because male developers do the exact opposite of draw attention to it.
Oh ok, so you have no proof of what is happening with guys and are just going to make up what you think is happening?
Again, you cant just waive all this shite off and say that these people never do anything b/c you just don't know when a crazy person is actually going to do it.
and holy crap saying they should just shut up about it if they want it to stop. That is just plain dumb and nothing more than blaming the victim.
"Sorry daughter of mine. You need to toughen up and shut the hell up about people posting pictures of where you live, threatening to kill you, threatening to rape you, and all the other harassment you are getting. It's your fault the harassment is getting worse by telling people about it."
I'm sorry man but that is a ridiculous stance to have.
The people doing this crap need to be outted and need to be punished. Its not ok for them to be doing it, its not ok to waive it off like its no big deal and just some internet lulz, and its not ok to blame people getting harassed even more b/c they have the gall to mention some frick threatened to kill/rape them.
Ignoring a problem does not fix a problem. This shite is a problem.
Posted on 3/7/15 at 3:41 pm to Dr RC
quote:
Last week, even a figure so beloved as Minecraft’s Notch said that he had started receiving death threats after the free server for Minecraft got shut down. The piece focuses on Robert Bowling, who served as the creative strategist for Infinity Ward when it was making the Call of Duty series. He says that the vast, vast majority of threats seem to come from kids and other people who don’t pose anything close to a real threat, and that absorbing them in stride is just part of what comes with being a public figure in games.
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For him, it was like this: “We make an internal decision. Internal decision goes live. YouTube personality disagrees with the decision, makes video rallying the troops against the decision, troops go forth and figure out ways to express that disagreement. That process of finding ways to express the disagreement would typically be a series of trying to one-up each other. It would start with nasty messages online. It would turn into trying to hack my accounts.” The hacking would trigger a battery of e-mails to Bowling regarding attempts to recover “forgotten” passwords. “Once they failed at that, the phone calls and e-mails and the next step of threats would come.”
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It’s wild that people who make things that are ultimately inconsequential entertainment should be the subject of so much ire, but gamers are a passionate lot. Unfortunately, the internet gives a loud voice to people who represent only a very small portion of any given community. People sometimes take to the internet to tell someone how much they like their work, but more often people do so to tell people how much they hate something.
From a Forbes article. Took me like 2 seconds on Google to look it up. Now then if you would, in the politest manner possible, go frick yourself.
Posted on 3/7/15 at 3:44 pm to Rayburn8
quote:
This a stupid discussion you know how many death threats I get from just PLAYING games.
My poor mother gets threatened with rape whenever I login to XBox Live.
Posted on 3/7/15 at 3:45 pm to AUin02
Hey man, you can go frick yourself too b/c you think its no big deal for a person to be harassed with death threats and rape threats.
Quality human you are.
and
at trying to equate shite on XBox live to a constant barrage of harassment that these people are talking about. This post was edited on 3/7/15 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 3/7/15 at 3:54 pm to Dr RC
or we could go the opposite route and give these children and misfits online tons of press for being hateful little shits and give other would be douchebags inspiration to follow in their footsteps.
pimply faced nerds who issue death threats online =/= seal team six
pimply faced nerds who issue death threats online =/= seal team six
Posted on 3/7/15 at 3:58 pm to Dr RC
quote:
b/c getting death threats from crazy a-holes is just fun and games that should be blown off as nothing
lol
Posted on 3/7/15 at 3:59 pm to Brosef Stalin
quote:
How are they developing games from the kitchen?
Posted on 3/7/15 at 4:00 pm to Dr RC
You could at least return the favor and be polite about the fricking, sheesh.
Seriously though, it happens all the time in the industry. By its very nature the users are connected to the internet and thus able to be a very vocal minority. The overwhelmingly vast majority of the people are 8 year old and if you think 8 year olds can't find your address through the intent then go post some info on the OT.
These threats don't happen because they're women, these threats happen because they're game developers. You want to talk about the issues in the industry then go for it but let's not start the discussion with special treatment for a select few. The type of shite that gets tossed sins in a cesspool like XBox Live or on YouTube videos makes up the vast majority of the vitriol spewed by the vocal minority that is typical of this "murder" problem. Just good grief what hyperbole that was.
Seriously though, it happens all the time in the industry. By its very nature the users are connected to the internet and thus able to be a very vocal minority. The overwhelmingly vast majority of the people are 8 year old and if you think 8 year olds can't find your address through the intent then go post some info on the OT.
These threats don't happen because they're women, these threats happen because they're game developers. You want to talk about the issues in the industry then go for it but let's not start the discussion with special treatment for a select few. The type of shite that gets tossed sins in a cesspool like XBox Live or on YouTube videos makes up the vast majority of the vitriol spewed by the vocal minority that is typical of this "murder" problem. Just good grief what hyperbole that was.
This post was edited on 3/7/15 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 3/7/15 at 4:00 pm to CornDogCologne
quote:
or we could go the opposite route and give these children and misfits online tons of press for being hateful little shits and give other would be douchebags inspiration to follow in their footsteps
It's really not a hard concept to understand. Ignore it and it never becomes a bigger issue but bring unneeded notice and media attention to it and it escalates to people posting pictures of your house.
Posted on 3/7/15 at 4:00 pm to CornDogCologne
quote:
or we could go the opposite route and give these children and misfits online tons of press for being hateful little shits and give other would be douchebags inspiration to follow in their footsteps.
Yes, actually. They should be given press, they should be found out, and they should get punished and made an example of for this shite.
You shouldn't be allowed to harass the hell out of a person with impunity just b/c you are doing it anonymously online.
Telling people who are being harassed to shut up and ignore it does NOT solve the problem. It just emboldens fricks to continue doing it b/c they have no fear of repercussions.
Posted on 3/7/15 at 4:00 pm to Dr RC
quote:b/c women are the only ones that get threats in the industry.
b/c getting death threats from crazy assholes is just fun and games that should be blown off as nothing
Posted on 3/7/15 at 4:01 pm to Dr RC
Ummm...the male developers seem to think it is no big deal apparently. 
You asked for an article and you got one from Forbes.
Don't be a poor sport. Keep your disappointment at being terrible and wrong associated with Aggie football. No need for it here.
You asked for an article and you got one from Forbes.
Don't be a poor sport. Keep your disappointment at being terrible and wrong associated with Aggie football. No need for it here.
This post was edited on 3/7/15 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 3/7/15 at 4:01 pm to Dr RC
quote:
Dr RC
Hey fricktard,
When COD nerfed the sniper guns, all the male developers got was hate, death threats, etc.
The gaming nerds even went to youtube to threaten Activision and their developing team on COD.
I know for a fact that Vahn receives death threats, he will retweet them.
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