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re: Raw Oysters and Vibrio Vulnifus

Posted on 8/5/13 at 9:47 am to
Posted by Mung
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 9:47 am to
you're mixing your shite up. Vibrio causes sepsis if your immune system is already compromised. Some other shite is what's eating flesh up, staph or the like.

Regardless, I've converted to only eating Pacific oysters raw, since they taste better. Cold water, always salty.
Posted by pooponsaban
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 9:49 am to
I don't understand. Because diabetes is a problem we have to ignore all smaller problems? Okay.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:03 am to
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I don't understand. Because diabetes is a problem we have to ignore all smaller problems? Okay.


The thread is over the potential danger from eating raw oysters, incredibly small we all know. However, the dangers from the rest of the shite we ingest that causes diabetes and affects a shite ton of humans, encroaching on 1/3 of children is something nobody talks about or wants to talk about.

Like focusing on your child perhaps becoming a victim of a school shooting while ignoring the meth he's cooking up in the bathroom.
Posted by Winkface
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:09 am to
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Cooking them (frying) usually generates enough temp to kill the bacteria
You can also douse them in Tabasco. It also kills the bad stuff.
Posted by pooponsaban
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:15 am to
They aren't mutually exclusive. I can worry about ingesting loads of sugars and still not eat oysters when the water is 90 freaking degrees.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:19 am to
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They aren't mutually exclusive. I can worry about ingesting loads of sugars and still not eat oysters when the water is 90 freaking degrees.


But we don't

Posted by pooponsaban
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:20 am to
I do.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:38 am to
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You can also douse them in Tabasco. It also kills the bad stuff
If only this were true, Wink.
Posted by AreJay
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:56 am to
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Just know who you're buying them from during the warmer months.



this is always good advice, but i do not think it applies to the topic of avoiding vibrio vulnifus. it's something that is in the oyster while it's out there in the water and alive and 'healthy'--before it gets to the supplier.

it's certainly a risk that is probably unavoidable if you are eating oysters, and it seems the risk is truly higher in the warm months and from gulf waters specifically. but you are talking about a small amount of cases per year, in billions of total oysters consumed per year. and as with most of this stuff, the cases of major health issues (and death is pretty prevalent), it's from people with compromised immune systems consuming raw oysters.
Posted by DocHolliday1964
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:00 am to
Vibrio causes sepsis (blood infection) if ingested by right person (immunocompromised) or bad diarrhea in normal host. Same bug also causes a flesh eating phenomenon when it get in a skin wound. All-around a really nasty bug! And Tabasco dont do squat to it! I only eat raw ones after really cold spells now when the bacterial load in our lovely waters is lowest from human feces. Still a risk though especially for those with impaired liver function like those who drink two or more alcoholic beverages per day. Good luck,
Doc
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 11:02 am
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:06 am to
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Same bug also causes a flesh eating phenomenon when it get in a skin wound. All-around a really nasty bug!
This, and in rare cases, not just skin wound... digested as well.
Posted by vuvuzela
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:34 am to
frick you for ruining one of my favorite foods.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:37 am to
One in a billion. You're more likely to win the lottery.

But you'll know if it happens to you!
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:43 pm to
Rum will kill the little buggers, too. Maybe it just mellows them out. I forget.
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:52 pm to
I think I just got sicks from raw oysters. I dont eat them too often raw but had the urge too in gulf shores a cpl weeks ago. On sunday I started to cramp up and fell like azz. diarrhea ensued and had one spell of vomiting. This lasted for 3 days before I was back to normal. IF it was food related I had raw oysters about 24hrs and 48 hrs before feeling bad. I ahd mid rare steak and lobster too but in my head it had to be the oysters (if food related). The place that was 24hrs before didnt have raw on the menu but had them cooked and said they can hook me up with some raw...all i know is I felt pretty bad for a few days. SO no more raw unless its cooler.
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:57 pm to
This is BP's fault and that damned oil spill, throwing all those chemicals into the water making fricking killer oysters.

I don't feel safe anymore. Can you hold me?
Posted by Capt ST
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:01 pm to
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Still a risk though especially for those with impaired liver function like those who drink two or more alcoholic beverages per day. Good luck, Doc


If this bug was a serious problem, half the coon asses would be dead if the 2 drink a day applied. That said, I've got some incredible oysters on my duck lease which borders the GOM. I'll grab some for grill this time of year, but the popping them open and sucking them back with a beer like I do during duck season isn't going to happen.
Posted by hungryone
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:09 pm to
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IF it was food related I had raw oysters about 24hrs and 48 hrs before feeling bad. I ahd mid rare steak and lobster too but in my head it had to be the oysters (if food related).

Did you have a salad? Lettuce and other uncooked veg seem to be the primary culprit in the cyclospora outbreak. Many cases of food poisoning are traced to raw green onion garnishes, parsley, lettuce, and other raw items (not just oysters).
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:17 pm to
I did have a salad too...hmm idk what it was then too many raw things lol.
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:21 pm to
Next time, eat the "puffer" fish instead
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