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re: Proof: All Wine Tastes the Same
Posted on 6/24/13 at 1:04 pm to Rohan2Reed
Posted on 6/24/13 at 1:04 pm to Rohan2Reed
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of course not that is ridiculous that people claim to pick up all those flavors. when I taste wine and someone asks me to describe it I can come up with a couple three descriptive terms, but they are mostly just me associating the wine with certain flavors. it's very open to interpretation, based on the taster .. not a hard and fast rule where you should be able to determine everything that went into making the wine.
I'm the same way. for instance, I can usually taste if it's heavy or light on the wood flavor, but I can't tell you which oak tree the barrel came from.
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yeah they're bullshite artists. faux experts.
I always get a good laugh reading ridiculous wine reviews
Posted on 6/24/13 at 1:10 pm to Oenophile Brah
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R2R's favorite wine is $9. That doesn't mean it's under valued, it just proves he's a cheap frick.
Evode!
Posted on 6/24/13 at 1:41 pm to Rohan2Reed
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of course not that is ridiculous that people claim to pick up all those flavors. when I taste wine and someone asks me to describe it I can come up with a couple three descriptive terms, but they are mostly just me associating the wine with certain flavors. it's very open to interpretation, based on the taster .. not a hard and fast rule where you should be able to determine everything that went into making the wine.
This is 100% what I agree with!
A wine could be a different experience for each person.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 1:52 pm to Lookin4Par
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This is 100% what I agree with!
A wine could be a different experience for each person.
so what about this post?
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This is horse shite. I have went through multitudes of wine tastings and can assure you that I can tell huge differences between varietals and often times regions, vineyards and notes held within. How can you say that a tobacco filled, peppery meritage is anywhere close to a Pinot noir or merlot with limited character. I can taste the differences between merlot, Pinot noir, Cabernet, Syrah, zin and often times malbecs.
you're really going to sit here and say you can taste a wine and know the region it came from and separate the tobacco or peppery flavors just because you've gone to some tastings?
Posted on 6/24/13 at 2:00 pm to Stadium Rat
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More evidence that wine-tasting is influenced by context was provided by a 2008 study from Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh. The team found that different music could boost tasters’ wine scores by 60%. Researchers discovered that a blast of Jimi Hendrix enhanced cabernet sauvignon while Kylie Minogue went well with chardonnay.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 2:04 pm to Lookin4Par
quote:Are from Beauregard Parish?
I have went
Posted on 6/24/13 at 2:19 pm to CreoleGumbo
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Once the bottle goes past the $50 range I can't tell the difference. its all good at that point.
I used to know no difference until i had a bruno giacosa barollo. I had no idea the price when i drank it. When i found out i almost felt guilty drinking it. When I drink wine I never know the price beforehand. Ive thought some expensive wines were bad and others have been fantastic.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 2:24 pm to Stadium Rat
Having had a glass from a 100 dollar bottle of port, I can tell you not all wine is the same.
I'm not a wine guy at all. Most red wine tastes bad to me.
I'm not a wine guy at all. Most red wine tastes bad to me.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 2:26 pm to notiger1997
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I do tend to agree with the overall message of articles like this, but there is a line where you can easily cross into shite wines at a certain price point.
Agree.
I do not think a $5 wine tastes like a $20 wine. I DO think it's plausible a $20 wine tastes like an $80 bottle.
I don't drink enough wine to say. But if it's like liquors, that would be the case.
ETA: I posted the trailer for that new documentary about the wine master people in the last wine thread. The testing they go through seems rigorous, so I'd think they can taste a good bit of difference to some extent.
This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 6/24/13 at 2:34 pm to LouisianaLady
All I know is the best red wine I've ever had in my entire life by a LARGE margin was for 3 euro in some small store in Paris. I wish I remembered the label.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 2:40 pm to LouisianaLady
quote:quote:Agree.
I do tend to agree with the overall message of articles like this, but there is a line where you can easily cross into shite wines at a certain price point.
also agree. i bought a bottle of Oak Leaf at walmart (sorry i mean whole foods) for $2.97 one time. i thought egh, it's wine...i used to drink carlo rossi by the jug...how bad could it be? i'm no wine snob, but i poured that shite right down the drain.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 2:48 pm to TH03
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This is horse shite. I have went (so refined you are) through multitudes of wine tastings and can assure you that I can tell huge differences between varietals and often times regions, vineyards and notes held within. How can you say that a tobacco filled, peppery meritage is anywhere close to a Pinot noir or merlot with limited character (what da fuq does this shite even mean? It's not alive, how can it have "character"?). I can taste the differences between merlot, Pinot noir, Cabernet, Syrah, zin and often times (but not all the time, only when he's "ON") malbecs.
Best post and I hope to god you were serious.
This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 6/24/13 at 2:53 pm to LouisianaLady
quote:I agree some great $20 bottles are as good as $120 bottles and it goes the other way around (some $120 bottles are as bad as mediocre $20).
I DO think it's plausible a $20 wine tastes like an $80 bottle.
On the higher end, a good importer can make very good money by finding $100-$200 bottles that stand up to $500+ bottles.
This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 6/24/13 at 3:07 pm to AlxTgr
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quote: I have went Are from Beauregard Parish?
Ok thanks grammar police. Point taken.
I never claimed to be able to discern from region to region, only that they have differing tastes. Being able to tell the differences between and recognize Malbec, Cab, Zin, Merlot and others doesn't take superhuman capabilities.
Perhaps my op was written without caution but I maintain the premise; different wine varietals, regions, years and even weather patterns produce vastly different flavor profiles in wine.
Quit whining about grammar and sentence structure and stick to the topic, arse!
Posted on 6/24/13 at 3:20 pm to Lookin4Par
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Perhaps my op was written without caution but I maintain the premise; different wine varietals, regions, years and even weather patterns produce vastly different flavor profiles in wine.
and you can't taste the difference. that's the point. any claim otherwise is bullshite.
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Quit whining about grammar and sentence structure and stick to the topic, arse!
all of my posts have been on topic, but you've ignored them
Posted on 6/24/13 at 3:45 pm to TH03
But you can taste a difference. Han me two different wines from any region in the world and more than likely each wine will have a different flavor and finish profile than the other.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 3:47 pm to Lookin4Par
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I maintain the premise; different wine varietals, regions, years and even weather patterns produce vastly different flavor profiles in wine.
i thought i recognized you. you're ray jordan, right? omg, i loved loved loved your write-up on the 09 woodside valley estate le bas chardonnay
Posted on 6/24/13 at 3:52 pm to Lookin4Par
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But you can taste a difference. Han me two different wines from any region in the world and more than likely each wine will have a different flavor and finish profile than the other.
I bet if I gave you 2 glasses of the same wine and told you they were different, you'd tell me you could taste that they were from different regions.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 3:58 pm to TH03
This is a good OT-type thread for the food board.
-Article linked to a study of how wine experts can't tell the difference in most wines
-TD wine experts show up and tell you how it's bullshite.
Good shite.
-Article linked to a study of how wine experts can't tell the difference in most wines
-TD wine experts show up and tell you how it's bullshite.
Good shite.
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