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re: Plant based diet?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 12:30 pm to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 9/29/15 at 12:30 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Aubie Spr96
Have you tried any other plant based products recently? Any other seitan type products?
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 12:32 pm to Gorilla Fingers
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my wife is an annoying vegan and is my source.
How long has she been vegan and what are her reasons? Health ? Ethics?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 12:50 pm to mouton
quote:health at first although she's gotten really into the ethics part. That's the annoying side to me. She made the ethics transformation after watching Earthlings. Anyhoo, I went strictly plant based for a little over a year and really enjoyed it. I've always been a weightlifter and general health nut but this diet did take me to next level leanness. I was around 185 when I started and after about 2 weeks I was 165 and stayed there while I was on that wagon. Everybody I know thought I looked too skinny and sickly. Also, I travel a lot and work in sales and it's pretty hard to stay that militant about eating plant based and it's a pretty polarizing stand. I go with the flow when I'm out with people. I usually average 1-2 meals per week with meat, 9 out of 10 times it's seafood. My weight is usually stuck on 172.
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my wife is an annoying vegan and is my source.
How long has she been vegan and what are her reasons? Health ? Ethics?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 1:02 pm to Gorilla Fingers
Thanks for the information. I have ate a vegetarian diet for extended periods and really felt great but I have never tried a strictly plant based diet. It is a lot more effort to maintain and it can be expensive. I have about 20 pounds of hemp protein so I have been considering doing completely plant based for a few months just to gauge how I feel.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 1:03 pm to Gorilla Fingers
Out of curiosity how tall are you?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 1:07 pm to mouton
5'11"
Posted on 9/29/15 at 1:08 pm to Gorilla Fingers
172 seems like a great weight for your height.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 1:10 pm to Gorilla Fingers
So what are some of the meals that are in you and your wifes weekly rotation? Do yall use many meat substitutes? Protein supplements?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 1:39 pm to mouton
The only meat subs I like are tofu and tempeh. Never cared for seitan, plus I try to avoid gluten. I have high inflammation issues and carb or sugar benders give me joint pain and a stiff neck. Sucks. I find that lentils are the best meat subs for tacos, sloppy joes, stuffed peppers, and even meat sauce. Portobellos kick arse too and are a great burger or fajita option. Eggplant makes for great cutlets and meatballs as well. We cook a lot of meals from recipes my wife finds from stuff like the Forks Over Knives book. Last night we had a crockpot meal of lentils, onion, sweet potato, coconut milk with spinach added at the end. Good stuff. We also have a plant based takery a couple of blocks from the house we hit up a lot. Living in Dallas it's fairly easy to eat as healthy as you want at lunch. My breakfast staple is a smoothie with almond milk, an apple, a banana, spinach, blueberries, almond butter, and an avocado. Love it.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 1:41 pm to Gorilla Fingers
I forgot I add a scoop of some vegan protein powder in my smoothie. I forget the name of it, but I buy it at Sprouts. It's also sold at Natural Grocers and Whole Foods.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 1:55 pm to Gorilla Fingers
Did you notice a big difference in how you felt after transistioning to a mainly plant based diet?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:56 pm to mouton
Nothing off hand. I saw some cool looking stuff in the case at Whole Foods. I do find it funny that most of those products try to replicate meat some how. 
I work a vegitarian dish or two into our dinner rotation a couple times a week. I've always had an aversion to dairy. The plant protein supplements are better for my system.
I work a vegitarian dish or two into our dinner rotation a couple times a week. I've always had an aversion to dairy. The plant protein supplements are better for my system.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 6:31 am to hungryone
Soooo, to summarize, we have lots of information, no definitive answers, conflicting studies and opinions, and some anecdotal evidence on many sides of a multifaceted equation.
I am going to stick with this, especially after reading this thread.
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(moderation in all things is my motto)
I am going to stick with this, especially after reading this thread.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:50 am to Tigertown in ATL
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Soooo, to summarize, we have lots of information, no definitive answers, conflicting studies and opinions, and some anecdotal evidence on many sides of a multifaceted equation.
Exactly. I think the biggest thing is to eat unprocessed foods and tons of fruits and vegetables.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:38 am to Gorilla Fingers
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Millions of Indians follow fairly strict vegan diets with no ill effects. Of course, they have thousands of years of practice, and they're not afraid of bitter greens, root veg, spices, and beans/pulses/lentils. Some of the tastiest things in the vegan food world are southern Indian foods. Look at cookbooks covering southern Indian cuisine...
FWIW, this is a bit of a myth that Indians are healthy. India has it's fair share of health issues related to diet/lifestyle.
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ndia has the dubious distinction of being known as the coronary and diabetes capital of the world
India, Heart Disease
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:41 am to LSUfan20005
Tons of fat and rice.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:48 am to LSUfan20005
It's worth mentioning that one thing to look out for when people mention "How great they feel" after changing to a diet is the honeymoon effect of a new diet.
So many people try out these restrictive, specific approach diets that are often lacking in key nutrients. When they switch to a new, similarly strict diet, they feel great because they are still high in the nutrients from the previous diet, as well as the nutrients the new diet is high in.
For example...
Let's say someone is fringe paleo. They are getting tons of protein, plenty of B-12, and lots of zinc, copper, omega 3's, etc. But, since they are fringe paleo and don't focus on veggies enough and rarely eat legumes, they may have:
1.) Low magnesium, or poor magnesium/calcium balance
2.) Gut issues because they aren't providing enough fermentable fiber for their gut bacteria.
Now, let's say this person switches to a vegetarian or vegan approach. Once again, this is a fringe diet and is pretty restrictive. Now they are getting tons of veggies and lots of legumes. They feel better as they correct some of their nutrient deficiencies and get a better gut balance. They still have high levels of everything the fringe paleo diet provided.
Honeymoon Effect.
However, as a few months go by, this restrictive diet may lead to low B-12 and other nutrients abundant in animals, and if this person isn't really working toward getting enough protein, they may see some effects there.
Now, the honeymoon effect goes away, and another set of issues pop up.
This is why uber-restrictive diets often fail over time, but almost always grant the dieter a few weeks of honeymoon effect.
I learned this from a doctor who works with elite athletes and helped me through recovery from a bad illness (for a hefty price, of course)
So many people try out these restrictive, specific approach diets that are often lacking in key nutrients. When they switch to a new, similarly strict diet, they feel great because they are still high in the nutrients from the previous diet, as well as the nutrients the new diet is high in.
For example...
Let's say someone is fringe paleo. They are getting tons of protein, plenty of B-12, and lots of zinc, copper, omega 3's, etc. But, since they are fringe paleo and don't focus on veggies enough and rarely eat legumes, they may have:
1.) Low magnesium, or poor magnesium/calcium balance
2.) Gut issues because they aren't providing enough fermentable fiber for their gut bacteria.
Now, let's say this person switches to a vegetarian or vegan approach. Once again, this is a fringe diet and is pretty restrictive. Now they are getting tons of veggies and lots of legumes. They feel better as they correct some of their nutrient deficiencies and get a better gut balance. They still have high levels of everything the fringe paleo diet provided.
Honeymoon Effect.
However, as a few months go by, this restrictive diet may lead to low B-12 and other nutrients abundant in animals, and if this person isn't really working toward getting enough protein, they may see some effects there.
Now, the honeymoon effect goes away, and another set of issues pop up.
This is why uber-restrictive diets often fail over time, but almost always grant the dieter a few weeks of honeymoon effect.
I learned this from a doctor who works with elite athletes and helped me through recovery from a bad illness (for a hefty price, of course)
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:55 am to LSUfan20005
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Now, let's say this person switches to a vegetarian or vegan approach. Once again, this is a fringe diet and is pretty restrictive
I wouldnt classify a vegetarian diet as fringe or lacking it nutrients.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:00 am to LSUfan20005
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It's worth mentioning that one thing to look out for when people mention "How great they feel" after changing to a diet is the honeymoon effect of a new diet.
This is definitely true. I was already eating a very healthy diet with tons of fresh fruits and vegetables when I changed to a vegetarian diet though. Really the only thing I changed was substituting non meat sources of protein. I definitely felt much better overall and had higher energy levels, shorter recovery times etc.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:00 am to mouton
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I wouldnt classify a vegetarian diet as fringe or lacking it nutrients.
Maybe if someone works at it really hard, it takes supplementation or lots of focus on key things like B12, vitamin D, and EPA/DHA.
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