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Definitely NOT. Your protein needs aren't nearly as large as you'd think, even if very active. There are a fair number of vegan athletes who manage to train & compete at high levels on vegan diets. Seeds & nuts, nut butters, and nut flours can contribute significant amounts of protein to balanced vegan diets...it's not all beans. You can buy plant-based protein powders derived from seeds as well.
Do you know how much vegan food you'd have to eat to get to 150 grams of protein? Even 100 would be tough. I guarantee you Prince Fielder and Arian Foster are not taking in less than 100 grams of protein a day, which means they are eating a TON of food.
re: Plant based diet?Posted by TT9 on 4/28/15 at 1:59 pm to tke_swamprat
I'm a lifelong vegan, I love stir fry myself with tofu and eggplant.
eat a ton of Indian and Asian food. It's great.
eat a ton of Indian and Asian food. It's great.
re: Plant based diet?Posted by Shamalamadingdong on 4/28/15 at 2:11 pm to LSUfan20005
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Buy soy is the most industrialized and modified food crop out there.
I'd believe corn would capture that crown, however soy is GM.
We plant many acres of both as well as cotton each year so I don't bash Monsanto or big agriculture but I personally only eat what I plant in my own personal garden. I've been known to each edamame on occasion however and not one of those being eaten here is from US. All from China which I can imagine is not exactly organically grown.
re: Plant based diet?Posted by hungryone on 4/28/15 at 2:29 pm to Shamalamadingdong
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Fair number?
Of course there is no official count. I am simply suggesting it is entirely possible to be an elite athlete and vegan. A few examples:
Scott Jurek, ultramarathoner: LINK
Carl Lewis (yes, that olympian Carl Lewis), vegan since 1990
Pat Neshek, pitcher for the Astros
Jake Shields, mma champion
Eric Johnson, former tight end with the Saints
I'm not claiming hordes and hordes are vegan; just saying it is entirely possible to function at an elite level on a vegan diet. The human animal is remarkably flexible when it comes to diet, and many dietary beliefs are just that: beliefs. Fashion, trend, and pseudoscience run rampant in conversations about diet. Americans love nothing more than a diet fad or fashion: yes to soy! no to soy! no to eggs! yes to eggs! low fat! high fat! no red meat! all red meat!
I am not a vegan (moderation in all things is my motto), but I know plenty of very healthy, active, athletic vegans who are not suffering from protein deficiency, gut inflammation, or any conditions caused by their meat avoidance.
re: Plant based diet?Posted by Aubie Spr96 on 4/28/15 at 2:40 pm to mouton
I was impressed with how much protein seitan had compared to chicken. Tofu has a good amount as well. However, soy products are apparently loaded with estrogen and will turn you into Bruce Jenner.
re: Plant based diet?Posted by LSUfan20005 on 4/28/15 at 3:02 pm to Aubie Spr96
Soy also doesn't have a form of B12 you can absorb.
And it's also not a complete protein.
Look, you can probably make the whole vegan think work. But it requires a ton of effort to avoid B12 deficiency (among other nutrients) and get enough protein.
God has already made this easy for you by creating these delicious animals. You don't have to eat a ton, just some.
And it's also not a complete protein.
Look, you can probably make the whole vegan think work. But it requires a ton of effort to avoid B12 deficiency (among other nutrients) and get enough protein.
God has already made this easy for you by creating these delicious animals. You don't have to eat a ton, just some.
re: Plant based diet?Posted by hungryone on 4/28/15 at 3:39 pm to LSUfan20005
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Look, you can probably make the whole vegan think work. But it requires a ton of effort to avoid B12 deficiency (among other nutrients) and get enough protein.
I'm not vegan by a mile, and I am chronically B12 deficient. As I understand B12 deficiency, it's related to parietal cells not producing enough intrinsic factor...so whether or not you eat B12 containing foods, your body doesn't absorb them. This can happen regardless of the diet you follow; it's more of an autoimmune condition than a dietary deficiency.
re: Plant based diet?Posted by tke_swamprat on 4/28/15 at 3:43 pm to hungryone
I plan on seeing if the have any seitan at Trader Joe's this weekend. I'm going buy all kinds of shite over there.
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re: Plant based diet?Posted by Aubie Spr96 on 4/28/15 at 4:50 pm to tke_swamprat
Seitan was actually pretty good. Whole Foods had a ground version they could be subbed for ground beef. It wasn't ground beef, but it was an acceptable replacement. I used it in tacos and sloppy joes.
Bodybuilding Link to Soy Protein Research
It doesn't turn you into a woman.
Bodybuilding Link to Soy Protein Research
It doesn't turn you into a woman.
For those of you who posted in this thread and were interested in meat alternatives like seitan their is a new tofu on the market made from hemp seeds instead of soy. I have tried it a few times recently and is not bad and has an excellent nutritional profile. I picked it up at Whole Foods.
Hempfu
Hempfu
re: Plant based diet?Posted by Superior Pariah on 9/29/15 at 11:56 am to LSUfan20005
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Humans are as evolved as we are thanks to meat.
By evolved you mean being fat with high blood pressure, heart issues, and diabetes?
re: Plant based diet?Posted by mouton on 9/29/15 at 12:10 pm to Superior Pariah
I think he is referring to the development of the modern human brain being attributed to the introduction of large amounts fatty meats into the diets of prehistoric man.
re: Plant based diet?Posted by Rohan2Reed on 9/29/15 at 12:15 pm to mouton
mouton: the guy who never found a diet trend he didn't like
re: Plant based diet?Posted by Aubie Spr96 on 9/29/15 at 12:17 pm to mouton
I saw this the other day. Interesting.
I also found a vegan meal replacement powder from TrueNutricion. I use it plain and the taste is ok. However, it really does a good job of keeping you full.
I also found a vegan meal replacement powder from TrueNutricion. I use it plain and the taste is ok. However, it really does a good job of keeping you full.
re: Plant based diet?Posted by mouton on 9/29/15 at 12:26 pm to Rohan2Reed
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mouton: the guy who never found a diet trend he didn't like
I just try to eat healthy foods from a variety of sources. Not sure how that is a diet trend but whatever.
re: Plant based diet?Posted by Gorilla Fingers on 9/29/15 at 12:27 pm to hungryone
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Millions of Indians follow fairly strict vegan diets with no ill effects. Of course, they have thousands of years of practice, and they're not afraid of bitter greens, root veg, spices, and beans/pulses/lentils.
Some of the tastiest things in the vegan food world are southern Indian foods. Look at cookbooks covering southern Indian cuisine...
They are more vegetarian than vegan. A lot of their dishes, while meatless, contain lots of dairy like cream or cheese. my wife is an annoying vegan and is my source.
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