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Non-sticky Jambalaya?

Posted on 10/20/08 at 9:21 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 9:21 am
How's this done?

I had, amazingly, never really made jambalaya from scratch before.

I made a pot of white beans, and decided I wanted this to go along with it. Boned half a chicken and made stock with the bones. Had some good Anduille, as well. Sauted onions, bell peppers, and a little celery, browned the anduille and chicken, added rice, added the stock, covered and cooked for about 35 minutes. Opened pot, and noticed the rice seemed to be getting mushy, but I tasted it, and it was still crunchy on the inside. shite!! I was forced to add a little more water, and cook some more until the rice actually cooked, but the end result was not what I was looking for.

I like a brown jambalaya, with individual cooked grains of rice.

Where did I go wrong? Is there a way to do this correctly, using regular long grain rice (I'm not a big converted rice fan)?
Posted by andouille
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 9:26 am to
I use Uncle Ben's, seems to always give me a consistent result. Nice individual rice grains, good presentation. I have heard that Zatarain's also has a par-boiled rice that has a better flavor than Uncle Ben's. Have not tried it yet.

BTW, if you are on a low-card diet, the par-boiled rice like Uncle Ben's has most of the starch and carbs removed in the processing.
Posted by Martini
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 9:39 am to
I use the Zatarain's because it is the same as Uncle Ben's and is Louisiana rice and cheaper. Taste the same to me. I can't make a gumbo with regular long grain to save my arse although I use long grain Mahatma for just about everything else.

My wife makes a good jambalaya in the oven. She has a big MagnaLite oval roaster and it serves about 20. Not sure how to brown it, I just stir the rice in the meat and vegetables for a couple three minutes prior to adding my stock. Browns a little. I won't use liquid smoke or kitchen bouquet. Gives me heartburn.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 10:49 am to
I never cook it on the stove, I always bake my Jambalaya. Cooks it and never burns the btm....
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 10:50 am to
quote:

I never cook it on the stove, I always bake my Jambalaya. Cooks it and never burns the btm....


Using regular long grain rice? How long you cook it?
Posted by osunshine
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 11:08 am to
Good to know that Zatarain's works well, I have had the sticky/crunchy problem with regular rice also.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 11:13 am to
quote:

Using regular long grain rice?


Yep.

quote:

How long you cook it?


About hr and a 1/2.
I also use a little Kitchen Bouquet to darken.
Use the rice to water on the bag...


A buddy of mine that had a camp with this guy taught me how to cook it in the oven...




Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 11:15 am to
Do you add cold water and put it in the oven, or do you get the water heated and/or to boiling on the stove first?
Posted by el tigre
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 11:29 am to
I bring mine to a boil on the stove top, reduce heat to simmer, cover, then toss in the oven. Follow the lquid to rice ration precisely, and don't forget to include all liquids.


and your onions are key. really let them caramelize first.
Posted by bossflossjr
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 11:31 am to
Zatarrains is the only way to go....doesnt stick


ur note said u added rice then stock.....


Add stock, and simmer for a while...the longer the moisture simmers, the richer the taste....

then bring to a boil, add rice, reduce to simmer....cover for 25-30
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101471 posts
Posted on 10/20/08 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Add stock, and simmer for a while...the longer the moisture simmers, the richer the taste....

then bring to a boil, add rice, reduce to simmer....cover for 25-30


I sort of suspected, this was where I went wrong. I was trying to coat the rice in the fat in my pan, ala a risotto method, but I don't think that would give me what I'm looking for in jambalaya, using regular long grain rice.
Posted by el tigre
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 11:43 am to
yeah, no need for the risotto technique b/c the stock should be so rich anyway. You want your stock REALLY dark.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Do you add cold water and put it in the oven, or do you get the water heated and/or to boiling on the stove first?

Keep it warm or almost a boil on the stove. I also mix water and chicken broth for the rice to liquid mixture.

I do cook my Pastalaya on the stove, this one is great...
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Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 11:48 am to
quote:

You want your stock REALLY dark.


That wasn't the problem. My stock kicked arse. Boned the chicken and then browned the bones really well in the oven, with onions, celery, and carrots, before making the stock. Was able to save about half of it, to be put to good use later.
Posted by Lakefront-Tiger
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 11:55 am to
You need to do two things:
1. get your water amount right for the amount of rice used (this includes stock, soup, whatever liquid you use).
2. Skim the grease prior to adding the rice.

That's the reasons for sticky and crunchy rice
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

don't forget to include all liquids.


this is most important and most people forget.
Posted by bossflossjr
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 2:29 pm to
i dont use any water....all stock or chicken broth....richens the flavor
Posted by lsudupont82
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 2:53 pm to
just cook your rice separate in a rice cooker then mix it to the jambalaya. that's how i do it and my mom does it the same way. and it comes out perfect.
Posted by Kajungee
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Posted on 10/20/08 at 4:30 pm to



I wont even comment on this thread.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101471 posts
Posted on 10/20/08 at 4:35 pm to
Help me out, gee!
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