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re: Let's talk milk

Posted on 7/26/13 at 9:27 am to
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 9:27 am to
I don't drink as much as I once did. When electrical ice boxes came along, it seemed to change the flavor from right out of the milking shed..
I do have a glass of cold milk occasionally now, but only about 10 pm with vaniller cream cookies.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124373 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 9:27 am to
Occasionally ill drink white. I can drink chocolate all day
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 9:30 am to
Here are some interesting facts on why organic milk lasts longer than regular milk. I was curious so i googled.

LINK

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Organic milk lasts longer because producers use a different process to preserve it. According to the Northeast Organic Dairy Producers Alliance, the milk needs to stay fresh longer because organic products often have to travel farther to reach store shelves since it is not produced throughout the country.


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The process that gives the milk a longer shelf life is called ultrahigh temperature (UHT) processing or treatment, in which milk is heated to 280 degrees Fahrenheit (138 degrees Celsius) for two to four seconds, killing any bacteria in it.


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The different temperatures hint at why UHT-treated milk lasts longer: Pasteurization doesn’t kill all bacteria in the milk, just enough so that you don't get a disease with your milk mustache. UHT, on the other hand, kills everything.


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Retailers typically give pasteurized milk an expiration date of four to six days. Ahead of that, however, was up to six days of processing and shipping, so total shelf life after pasteurization is probably up to two weeks. Milk that undergoes UHT doesn’t need to be refrigerated and can sit on the shelf for up to six months.


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So why isn’t all milk produced using UHT?

One reason is that UHT-treated milk tastes different. UHT sweetens the flavor of milk by burning some of its sugars (caramelization). A lot of Americans find this offensive—just as they are leery of buying nonrefrigerated milk. Europeans, however, don’t seem to mind.

UHT also destroys some of the milk’s vitamin content—not a significant amount—and affects some proteins, making it unusable for cheese.

There are, of course, lots of reasons people buy organic milk. But if it's the long shelf life you're after, I would recommend you buy nonorganic UHT milk and avoid being charged double.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17184 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 9:35 am to
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Retailers typically give pasteurized milk an expiration date of four to six days


My milk I bought yesterday doesn't expire until 8/6
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68299 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 9:36 am to
Good info. Reg milk has 17 day exp date, but can still last.longer. it is pastuerized for 26 seconds at 170 or so degrees. Flavored milk like chocolate lower temp
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16192 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 9:39 am to
Some may disagree, but nothing cures a hangover for me better than chocolate milk.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 9:45 am to
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I drink Skim, less than a gallon in a two week period.


This. I used to hate it by itself, but I'll have a small glass every once in a while now.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 9:51 am to
No other species uses forks and knives. Or cook with fire.
Posted by emboslice
Member since Dec 2012
4519 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 9:58 am to
My almond milk (365 Brand) doesn't expire until July 20, 2014
Don't worry, it will be long gone by then.

It's simple and cheaper to make my own but my laziness wins most of the time.

I haven't had cow milk in over a year and I don't miss it. The thought of it kind of grosses me out now. I like the lightness of the nut milks. Not a big fan of coconut milk, I use it only for cooking. Pecan milk was my favorite that I have made.
Posted by Bayou Tiger Fan Too
Southeast LA
Member since Jun 2012
2101 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 10:02 am to
I drink a big glass, most nights, with supper (or dinner for the sophisticated folks). For me, it pairs well with a nice home cooked meal. On birthdays, I enjoy it with my cake. On the occasion that I come upon a piece of pie, and there's no coffee handy, I'll have it with my pie. I'll also drink it just because I like it.

As a youngster, straight from the cow or whole milk. As a young adult, it was whole milk. At some point, as I grew older, I changed to 2%. Now, we drink skim milk.

I ordered milk, not long ago, in a restaurant with breakfast. They gave me whole milk and it was the first time, in years, that I had tasted it. Didn't know what I was drinking at first. It was so thick and rich that I thought they had given me some sort of special breakfast shake.
Posted by emboslice
Member since Dec 2012
4519 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 10:02 am to
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No other species uses forks and knives. Or cook with fire.
Go raw vegan for 2 weeks (no need for forks and knives or fire) and I guarantee you will feel incredible. No one says we have to use forks and knives for the food we eat.
Posted by StinkDog12
TW, TX
Member since Nov 2006
4753 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 10:06 am to
I don't drink much milk but when I make a big arse fresh home made hamburger....I gotta have a glass of milk with it!

I have no idea where that combo came from in my life but ever since I can remember cooking for myself...it's been that way.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 10:10 am to
I guarantee I'd be miserable.
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
57269 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 10:12 am to
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Go raw vegan for 2 weeks

Sounds miserable.
Posted by AreJay
Member since Aug 2005
4186 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 10:29 am to
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•No species drinks milk beyond infancy or drinks the milk of another species.


true, but the argument that humans consuming milk is 'unnatural' based on this is off.

A large amount of adult humans are able to process lactose--like babies can. This is due to genetics and is something that came about thousands and thousands of years ago. So it's no like this drinking milk is some kind of modern thing with no historical evidence of happening. I think there were still wooly mammoths around when this genetic mutation came about.

Posted by SPE UVA
Charlottesville VA
Member since May 2009
126 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 10:33 am to
i only drink rice milk. It's pretty terrible by itself, but tastes fine with cereal, grits, or protein shakes.
Posted by pooponsaban
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
13494 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 10:34 am to
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No species drinks milk beyond infancy or drinks the milk of another species.


We do.

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The benefits of drinking milk are greatly exaggerated and are mythical in nature.


It's fricking delicious.
Posted by emboslice
Member since Dec 2012
4519 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 10:35 am to
I'd put money on it. Don't diss something until you try it. Look it up.
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28275 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 10:39 am to
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One reason is that UHT-treated milk tastes different. UHT sweetens the flavor of milk by burning some of its sugars (caramelization). A lot of Americans find this offensive—just as they are leery of buying nonrefrigerated milk. Europeans, however, don’t seem to mind.


I made myself drink it when I was there. It's not bad really. You can get over it not being ice cold. Over cornflakes it's fine and is good with a roll and some salami.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 10:50 am to
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Look it up.
I did. LINK
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I'd put money on it.
Hand it over. Thanks.
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