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Left Lasagna out all night - Safe to eat

Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:24 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52819 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:24 am
Accidentally left the lasagna out all night last night. Is it safe to eat if reheated properly?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84136 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:26 am to
Yes.
Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
11807 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:28 am to
Put it in the fridge this morning, heat whenever you're ready to eat. It's fine.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
90124 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:36 am to
LINK

When in Doubt, Throw it Out!

You cannot always see or smell bacterial contamination. Mold that appears to be growing only on the surface may grow invisible roots into softer foods. Do not rely on a visual inspection or "smell test" to tell you whether or not a food is safe. It's not worth the risk - food poisoning can be much, much worse than an upset stomach.

The Danger Zone

Potentially hazardous food that stays in the temperature "danger zone", 40-140 °F (4-60 °C), for more than 2 hours should be discarded.*
Potentially hazardous foods are those foods that spoil most easily, such as unshelled eggs, raw meats, fish, shell fish, dairy products, almost all cooked foods.
This time is cumulative, so it includes time bringing the food home from the grocery store, time before cooking, time after cooking, and so on. The reason is that while cooking may destroy bacteria or other pathogens, it doesn't always destroy the toxins that they have produced.
So in general, regarding perishable foods like meat, most dairy, unshelled eggs and shell eggs (in the US), cooked casseroles, and so on: if the food (or its perishable components) have been at room temperature for more than two hours, you should discard that food.
To avoid the danger zone, keep cooked food hot until ready to eat, then refrigerate immediately. Separate large items into smaller containers to help them to cool more quickly. If you’re defrosting something, do it in the fridge or under cold running water.
If you can be certain that the food was not in the danger zone, then yes, it is safe. For example, if you left a large chunk of frozen meat out and it is still frozen solid when you come back to it, it was not in the danger zone.
Why does cooking not completely "reset the clock"?

Some bacteria leave behind harmful protein toxins that cannot be "killed" (denatured) by cooking. Cooking food is only effective against live organisms, not their toxic waste products. Spoiled food cannot be cooked back to safety and must be discarded.
Cooking is pasteurization, not sterilization. Pasteurization means killing most microbes, so as to render the food safe for human consumption. Sterilization methods (e.g. pressure-canning and irradiation) are the only safe methods for longer-term room-temperature storage. Otherwise, the danger zone rules always apply.
Even sterilized food can only remain sterile under an airtight seal, e.g. when properly canned or vacuum-sealed. Once it is opened, it is no longer sterile. Air contains countless bacteria and molds, and their spores, which will readily re-colonize any suitable environment they encounter. Cooked food tends to be an ideal medium for growth.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6457 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:42 am to
I'd eat it, but I pee out of my butt nearly every day anyway. Good luck.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84136 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:45 am to
quote:

So in general, regarding perishable foods like meat, most dairy, unshelled eggs and shell eggs (in the US), cooked casseroles, and so on: if the food (or its perishable components) have been at room temperature for more than two hours, you should discard that food.


L O fricking L. I either have the world's strongest stomach, or that's a load of shite.
Posted by Jackalope
Paris. (Austin Native)
Member since Apr 2009
2252 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:02 am to
It's a load of crap.
Posted by Muriel
third ward
Member since Dec 2016
444 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:03 am to
I would 100% eat it. It's fine.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27107 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:06 am to
You're probably good, but there is a higher chance of mudbutt than if you had refrigerated it.
Posted by Parrish
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
2127 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:06 am to
t00f's only saying that it cannot be affirmatively claimed safe to eat. Each person has a different acceptable risk. I've eaten food that's been at room temp for three hours (say, party leftovers) but never overnight. But I'm more risk averse with expiration dates, etc, so YMMV.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52819 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:09 am to
quote:

t00f's only saying that it cannot be affirmatively claimed safe to eat. Each person has a different acceptable risk. I've eaten food that's been at room temp for three hours (say, party leftovers) but never overnight. But I'm more risk averse with expiration dates, etc, so YMMV.




Yeah, i've eaten party leftovers (smoked meats and the like) after leaving them out to no ill affects. I think i'll be the guinea pig and if all goes well, inform my wife whether it is safe or not.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11707 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:18 am to
I've eaten plenty of stuff left out overnight, and I've never had a problem.

Although, I do have a stomach made of iron.
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14219 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:30 am to
Toss it. Not safe.
Posted by bctiger6
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
1355 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:50 am to
Made that mistake before and put it in the fridge and ate it throughout the week.
I'm still alive
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
90124 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:26 am to
quote:

t00f's only saying that it cannot be affirmatively claimed safe to eat. Each person has a different acceptable risk. I've eaten food that's been at room temp for three hours (say, party leftovers) but never overnight. But I'm more risk averse with expiration dates, etc, so YMMV.


That's correct. Just giving what I would consider a possibly. I also would not eat something left out all night but I say the same thing when these threads pop up.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:04 pm to
I wouldn't risk it, but you're the one that would have to deal with spewing from both ends.

It's always safe until it isn't.
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:11 pm to
I see arse water in your future
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5309 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:53 pm to
It just wouldn't be worth the risk, to me. If I want lasagna that bad I will make or buy another. Maybe when I was a broke college student I would take the gamble but not now.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
3541 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 1:18 pm to
Officially it is unsafe to eat. IMO it's worth the risk and you'll probably be o.k. That's coming from someone who's had food poisoning more than once though so consider the source. I'm assuming this is a homemade lasagna and not Stouffer's, correct?
Posted by carnuba
tickfaw
Member since Jan 2009
1270 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

When in Doubt, Throw it Out! You cannot always see or smell bacterial contamination. Mold that appears to be growing only on the surface may grow invisible roots into softer foods. Do not rely on a visual inspection or "smell test" to tell you whether or not a food is safe. It's not worth the risk - food poisoning can be much, much worse than an upset stomach. The Danger Zone Potentially hazardous food that stays in the temperature "danger zone", 40-140 °F (4-60 °C), for more than 2 hours should be discarded.* Potentially hazardous foods are those foods that spoil most easily, such as unshelled eggs, raw meats, fish, shell fish, dairy products, almost all cooked foods. This time is cumulative, so it includes time bringing the food home from the grocery store, time before cooking, time after cooking, and so on. The reason is that while cooking may destroy bacteria or other pathogens, it doesn't always destroy the toxins that they have produced. So in general, regarding perishable foods like meat, most dairy, unshelled eggs and shell eggs (in the US), cooked casseroles, and so on: if the food (or its perishable components) have been at room temperature for more than two hours, you should discard that food. To avoid the danger zone, keep cooked food hot until ready to eat, then refrigerate immediately. Separate large items into smaller containers to help them to cool more quickly. If you’re defrosting something, do it in the fridge or under cold running water. If you can be certain that the food was not in the danger zone, then yes, it is safe. For example, if you left a large chunk of frozen meat out and it is still frozen solid when you come back to it, it was not in the danger zone. Why does cooking not completely "reset the clock"? Some bacteria leave behind harmful protein toxins that cannot be "killed" (denatured) by cooking. Cooking food is only effective against live organisms, not their toxic waste products. Spoiled food cannot be cooked back to safety and must be discarded. Cooking is pasteurization, not sterilization. Pasteurization means killing most microbes, so as to render the food safe for human consumption. Sterilization methods (e.g. pressure-canning and irradiation) are the only safe methods for longer-term room-temperature storage. Otherwise, the danger zone rules always apply. Even sterilized food can only remain sterile under an airtight seal, e.g. when properly canned or vacuum-sealed. Once it is opened, it is no longer sterile. Air contains countless bacteria and molds, and their spores, which will readily re-colonize any suitable environment they encounter. Cooked food tends to be an ideal medium for growth.

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