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re: Is "hand crafted" or "house made" the most over used food term?
Posted on 12/17/13 at 7:49 pm to joeleblanc
Posted on 12/17/13 at 7:49 pm to joeleblanc
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farm to table
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farm to table
Yes, between this and "locally sourced", I'm surprised Sysco has not been put out of business.
I do like the movement, but as usual La is way late to the game.
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:14 pm to notiger1997
I've always thought one of the unique advantages Louisiana has over other parts of the country is the fact that we are by nature, farm to table (or fishery to table, if you will). The fish and shrimp come from guys in the GoM, the crawfish come from farms in lower part of the state, the satsumas come from trees all in the area, the oyster beds are spitting distance away. Are the guys making boudin and sausage in Lafayette importing the pigs from Kansas City? I know the Californians get credit for pioneering it and they certainly have as much/more stuff locally available to them, but its not like we've been importing cod from Alaska for 100 years.
This post was edited on 12/17/13 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:15 pm to Geauxld Finger
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Is "hand crafted" or "house made" the most over used food term?
Sure. Next?
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:20 pm to VOR
I don't know. That whole "to perfection" thing is pretty common and meaningless.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 1:26 am to Geauxld Finger
I would rather hear "made in house"
Posted on 12/18/13 at 1:34 am to Deactived
Did you know companies can label something "organic" and it not truly be organic because of some sketchy USDA law that allows it. Big companies like Tyson chicken can have an organic product full of chemicals. I think it's allowed because "organic" can be used as a marketing term. It was on the documentary "food inc"
Posted on 12/18/13 at 3:56 am to Geauxld Finger
Organic
Posted on 12/18/13 at 5:27 am to Old Money
I don't mind house made or made in house when it comes to salad dressings. I'm never convinced salad dressings are made there unless they say so. Even in better restaurants.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:45 am to Tigertown in ATL
Artisanal gets my vote. If the food is truly small batch and handmade, then it is accurate. If Quiznos or Panera calls their bread artisanal, it's marketing BS.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:13 am to hungryone
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Artisanal gets my vote. If the food is truly small batch and handmade, then it is accurate. If Quiznos or Panera calls their bread artisanal, it's marketing BS.
Exactly, and I'd say that goes for others restaurants, fast food, chain, or not, who say buy dough from a purveyor, pop it in the oven and claim to make their own bread. In truth it should be called "Semi-Homemade". Same can be said for those who claim to make their sauce in house and really actually just doctor up premade product like tomato sauce or worse with more premade products like stock and base, or worse still add stock and powder. It's the sneaky dishonesty that gets to me. Truth be known, if the real honesty was to come out and be said, the terms "House Made" "Hand Crafted" "Atrisan" and "Organic" would not be nearly so "over used" in the first place. It's the bullshitting people that IS the real problem.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:15 am to hungryone
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small batch and handmade, then it is accurate. If Panera calls their bread artisanal
Does Panera not bake their own bread? Or am I misunderstanding you?
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:17 am to Geauxld Finger
"Our Organic 1/3 Pound Hand-crafted Burger, Grilled to Perfection, on an Artisanal Sustainable Bun, with In-House Aoli and Farm-To-Market Toppings. Velveeta Cheese Extra."
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 7:19 am
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:31 am to Mike da Tigah
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Same can be said for those who claim to make their sauce in house and really actually just doctor up premade product like tomato sauce
I asked a few weeks ago about making a homemade sauce and people told me that buying tomato sauce was the way to go.
Not arguing against your main point. My statement is more of a question. Sorry for the disclaimer, but the board was so cantankerous yesterday, I feel like I need to qualify everything I post. There is a natural assumption here that every post is a personal challenge and insult.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:38 am to Tigertown in ATL
I don't see how one can claim to make their own sauce when the sauce making was outsourced by buying the actual "sauce" someone else made for them.
Same for bread and baking in general. When we go to the grocery store and buy Pillsbury biscuit dough in a can or frozen biscuit dough in a bag already made up for us, pop it on a sheet pan and place it in the oven, nobody claims they are homemade biscuits. Rather, taking the time to mix flour and butter and salt,, sugar, baking powder, and adding buttermilk, rolling or forming and then baking off is what we would all call homemade biscuits.
Same for bread and baking in general. When we go to the grocery store and buy Pillsbury biscuit dough in a can or frozen biscuit dough in a bag already made up for us, pop it on a sheet pan and place it in the oven, nobody claims they are homemade biscuits. Rather, taking the time to mix flour and butter and salt,, sugar, baking powder, and adding buttermilk, rolling or forming and then baking off is what we would all call homemade biscuits.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:43 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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If you have to tell me this one thing is house made or hand crafted, what does that say about the rest of your food?
Disagree is some instances. For example Heritage Grill makes their own ketchup however they also have regular manufactured ketchup. When asking for ketchup they ask if you would prefer their "house made ketchup".
It can be used properly in a situation where one would assume a item may be purchased from a supplier instead of being made by the restaurant. Another good example would be salad dressings.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:44 am to Tigertown in ATL
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Does Panera not bake their own bread?
I don't know if they make it in the store. Most of the stuff at Whole Foods like this is made in production facilities and sent frozen to the store to be presented as baked in the store.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:46 am to notiger1997
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Yes, between this and "locally sourced", I'm surprised Sysco has not been put out of business.
I do like the movement, but as usual La is way late to the game.
John Besh is huge on local ingredients.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:51 am to notiger1997
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I do like the movement, but as usual La is way late to the game.
I know what you're saying, but I find it somewhat humorous that what is and has been considered just normal life prior to the 50's is now trendy and cutting edge so it takes people a while to get their mind wrapped around the concept. Shows just how far removed from the actual farm we have become as a society for this to be seen as odd or some movement that has to be introduced, or rather reintroduced.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:16 am to Mike da Tigah
That 180 or so lb 6 point I just pancaked while reading the raw honey thread in the stand is going to be farm to table. 
Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:17 am to Martini
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That 180 or so lb 6 point I just pancaked while reading the raw honey thread in the stand is going to be farm to table.
NICE!!!
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