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re: Ideal weight

Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by Winkface
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:56 pm to
It's useful because it can give an estimate of risk, which it has been shown a million times to be good at doing.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:56 pm to
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so for an individual, its really not that useful as a measure of health
That has been my only point. I guess we were arguing two different things
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:58 pm to
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so come up with a better system and you will be rich until then, it serves a purpose


I really dont think it would be all that hard. How about factoring in weight, height, waistline, and chest measurment. That will give a much better perspective on whether a person is fat (waist larger than their chest) or athletic and lean (chest considerably larger than waist).

Or if you want to keep it simple, chest measurment minus waistline. So 46.5" chest - 34" waist = 12.5
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Winkface
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:01 pm to
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I really dont think it would be all that hard.
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:03 pm to
Well, BMI is only factoring in two variables. A 3rd variable would curve it and fine tune it considerably and make it much more accurate. You think it would be difficult to add one more variable into the equation?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:05 pm to
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You think it would be difficult to add one more variable into the equation?


go head and write that equation for me
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:14 pm to
Papers come out every year trying to find the new measurement but nothing stacks up BMI in terms of it's usefulness across the board. Waist circumference, hip circumference and waist to hip ratio have come close and are useful but still haven't been able to overtake BMI.

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You think it would be difficult to add one more variable into the equation?
How are you going to "throw it in?" Add it? Multiply it? Subtract? Divide? Square? Square root? Does it need a factor correction?
Posted by Jones
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:16 pm to
this thread has it all.

we got people posting floral swimsuit pics.
someone describing themselves like theyre posting an ad on craigslist casual encounters
bmi

Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:17 pm to
BMI is dogshit, even my dr told me that


most athletes are considered obese with under 10% body fat

you have to look at body type too. large frame add 10%, small frame subtract 10%

im 5'10 with a large frame and im around 150/155 lbs. use to be 220
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:17 pm to
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go head and write that equation for me


Jim Carrey said it, "We landed on the moon!!!" This is not rocket surgery. Someone far smarter than me can throw this together. Im just calling bullshite on the theory of "we dont have it yet because it's too difficult to figure out". We dont have it yet because we dont want another equation. We dont want another equation because we dont want to change. Most people, although they know it's horseshite, can identify with BMI. We are slow to accept change. This is a nation (planet?) that still widely accepts and uses the fricking food pyramid, even though it has been proven arse backwards and completely wrong for decades now.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:18 pm to
lulz. Can you go walk into Pennington and tell them that? Please?
Posted by fisherbm1112
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:20 pm to
Ideal weight is bullshite in it's own in chart form if you are worried about something then watch your BMI and know your body and your limitations.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:20 pm to
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lulz. Can you go walk into Pennington and tell them that? Please?




Jesus, you seriously think this is about lack of intelligence and not about resistance to change?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:22 pm to
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not about resistance to change?


I'm sure it has to do with that some

but it also has to be with simplicity

BMI accounts for height and weight, just those 2 variables, so for screening purposes, it is very simple and efficient

you start adding variables and it becomes more difficult and not as quick
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:26 pm to
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Jesus, you seriously think this is about lack of intelligence and not about resistance to change?
Mary, you think that people haven't tried to come up with another measure? Measuring chest and waist would be just as easy as measuring height and weight. If it turned out to be a better measure, people would use it but it's not a better measure.
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 2:27 pm
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13575 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:32 pm to
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but it also has to be with simplicity BMI accounts for height and weight, just those 2 variables, so for screening purposes, it is very simple and efficient you start adding variables and it becomes more difficult and not as quick


Exactly. In 1830. This isnt 1830. There is a device in your pocket that will allow you to pull up a recipe for butternut squash ravioli, look at Eva Green's tits, call your wife, text your mistress, and email a pic of your junk to your maid all while listening to CCR (gotta keep it classy) but you dont think we can come up with a 3 variable formula that can better calculate a persons propensity to obesity or lack thereof, than BMI?
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:33 pm to
you want to blow up the Pythagorean theorem just because it's old too?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95168 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:34 pm to
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we got people posting floral swimsuit pics.
Bro dont judge. I got that bad boy from A&F in the 90's and the ladies loved it
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:35 pm to
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you want to blow up the Pythagorean theorem just because it's old too?


What an asinine comparison.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:36 pm to
I'm so sorry. That is the logic he was using.


It's asinine to think it's just that simple to come up with a new formula that is that successful.
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 2:41 pm
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